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Bill: Retirement Age Reform Act 4158
Details
Submitted by[?]: Fortschrittsvereinigung
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 4158
Description[?]:
| We believe with youth unemployment and the older generations being forced to work longer than they want to, that it would make a lot of sense to reduce the retirement age. As such we propose phasing in lower ages, starting with dropping the retirement age from 65 to 64. Especially with many pensions in our country being private and not a burden of the state, this reform in our mind seems more than fair enough. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 65
Current: 65
Proposed: 64
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:38:43, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Liberalen Partei | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | It seems the UDK just wants for people to work until their legs fall off, because god forbid we make less profit |
| Date | 15:44:33, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | It seems the UDK cares about the economy and about the people and about their pensions as well as the pensions of the future generations. |
| Date | 15:52:43, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Libertären Partei | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | It seems like the UDK wants the people to choose their own pension at private companies. |
| Date | 15:53:53, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Liberalen Partei | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | This isn't banning that |
| Date | 16:00:36, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Libertären Partei | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | No, but it forces people that use the public pensions to retire earlier and pay more. |
| Date | 16:09:59, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Liberalen Partei | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | You wouldn't pay more, and you aren't required to retire then |
| Date | 16:23:01, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Libertären Partei | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | How are you going to pay for it if you 'wouldnt pay more'? |
| Date | 16:37:24, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Liberalen Partei | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | You'd work, make money, and pay off the same amount |
| Date | 18:17:06, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, This proposal would not force people into using public pensions and paying more into them; plus many people do not want to work into old age! Nicolas Dorn, Leader of the Progress Party |
| Date | 18:20:53, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | Mr. Dorn, Yes yes of course we know that your party would like to see the retirement age shrinked to 15 years.... Tim Tancredi. |
| Date | 19:40:26, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Liberalen Partei | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | What? Why doesn't the KU let the people retire and not labor to build their evangelist churches and corporations! Why should a person work all their lives, even if we get a deficit, what the people want is more important than internal affairs! |
| Date | 19:51:00, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | Mr. LAP... My party stands for secularism, and I do not praise any religion more than other. The average life expectancy in our country is more than 84 years now. And the retirement age is 65 which is clearly not the whole life of any average individual. Tim Tancredi. |
| Date | 19:52:33, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Liberalen Partei | To | Debating the Retirement Age Reform Act 4158 |
| Message | One year would make people happy, and not damage our economy. I see no harm Nick Hochmeister, leader of the LAP |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 124 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 224 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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