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Bill: Commonwealth Workers Army Agenda - Ethical Treatment of Animals

Details

Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 4159

Description[?]:

A CWA Bill to prevent the exploitation of animals.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date01:20:21, January 31, 2017 CET
FromSocial Liberal Party
ToDebating the Commonwealth Workers Army Agenda - Ethical Treatment of Animals
MessageDear CWA speaker,

Sadly the SLP opposes every proposal in this Agenda. We believe that, if treated well, animals are key for the advance of science and medicine, and for the happiness of the general people. Furthermore, unless the CWA wants us all to become vegetarian, outlawing killing animals is nonsense for us. Please explain in case these are the intentions of your party.

Robin Thorne, SLP Speaker

Date01:26:29, January 31, 2017 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Commonwealth Workers Army Agenda - Ethical Treatment of Animals
MessageThe CWA are hardcore environmentalists. Animal life is part of our environment.

It is not acceptable to experiment on animals just to test a medication or make-up. It is not acceptable to cull animals just because you think they might be nice with chips.

We are not saying that anyone should be vegetarian. We are saying they shouldn't kill and eat animals.

Date01:34:38, January 31, 2017 CET
FromSocial Liberal Party
ToDebating the Commonwealth Workers Army Agenda - Ethical Treatment of Animals
MessagePersonally I can't see how can somebody not be a vegetarian if eating meat or fish is outlawed. As far as I know, there is still no way to get meat or fish without killing the animal. So, implicitly, you are saying that everybody must be vegetarian if this bill passes.

About another proposal: a dog, cat or almost any pet is way happier in a home with a constant supply of food, shelter and company than in the wild. In biology, synergy is the partnership between two species from which both benefit, and petting is a clear case. We cannot consider your party environmentalist if you outlaw synergic partnerships. Or will ants and sow bugs be allowed to partner, but not humans and dogs?

Robin Thorne, SLP Speaker

Date08:20:37, January 31, 2017 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Commonwealth Workers Army Agenda - Ethical Treatment of Animals
MessageThe question of vegetarianism is irrelevant to this platform. If the SLP can work out a way to avoid vegetarianism without killing animals and using them as a food source, we have no problem with that.

Regarding the issue of domestic animals. Asserting that dogs and cats are happy is not evidence that dogs or cats are happy. Perhaps more to the point, what we would think of as 'happy' is an entirely irrelevant state for an animal.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 141

no
     

Total Seats: 356

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Total Seats: 0


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