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Bill: Reforming the Nation

Details

Submitted by[?]: National Democratic Union

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 4164

Description[?]:

In light of the corruption at the heart of our society, the Government wishes to undertake measured efforts to overhaul our system of government to make it more amenable to popular democracy and the rule of the people.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:56:39, February 01, 2017 CET
FromHezb-e Melli-ye Aldegār
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageWe can support gradual and consensual reform but not the drastic and unexplained overhaul proposed in this bill. Firstly, where have the NDU pulled these bizarre titles from but we obviously prefer the terms which have been used in Aldegar for centuries over foreign influences. Furthermore, we do not understand why individuals in larger regions should have votes which are worth less than those in smaller regions- that is wrong. Lastly, while we can support expansion of the Divan, we could not support anything more than 300 members.

Farzin Shahbahram
Aldegarian National Party

Date09:55:20, February 02, 2017 CET
FromNational Democratic Union
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageThe reforms will be, when implemented, for the good of the nation. They will be for the good of the people. They shall transition our land into a new golden age, where maximum representation of the people is achieved and the democratic government maintains the upmost power over the course of the nation.

Date18:41:04, February 02, 2017 CET
FromHezb-e Melli-ye Aldegār
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageUnsubstantiated hyperbole is unlikely to win me over, Comrades. You have heard my response and unless you can justify this legislation, we won't be supporting.

Farzin Shahbahram
Aldegarian National Party

Date19:11:56, February 02, 2017 CET
FromNational Democratic Union
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageThat's fine- we aren't putting it forward yet.

Date22:05:11, February 02, 2017 CET
FromHezb-e Melli-ye Aldegār
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageYou have already put it forward. Do you take me for some kind of imbecile?

Farzin Shahbahram
Aldegarian National Party

Date01:28:22, February 03, 2017 CET
FromNational Democratic Union
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageYou are an imbecile if you don't know there's a difference between publishing drafts and white papers and putting a bill to a vote. Putting forward is to put it to a vote.

Date18:37:53, February 03, 2017 CET
FromHezb-e Melli-ye Aldegār
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageThat is incorrect. 'Putting it forward' means to present the bill, which you have clearly already done. That the government feels fit to refer to the leader of the opposition as an 'imbecile' shows the sad state of affairs under the National 'Democratic' Union- who should use that particular adjective much less!

Farzin Shahbahram
Aldegarian National Party

Date11:01:00, February 04, 2017 CET
FromNational Democratic Union
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageNo, you are incorrect. You literally are. You possess an incorrect understanding of political parlence.
Furthermore, were are democratic as this bill shows- we are actively removing barrier to further democratisation.

Date14:07:19, February 04, 2017 CET
FromHezb-e Melli-ye Aldegār
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageWhat is democratic about a region of 100 people and a region of 10,000,000 people receiving the same number of seats in the legislature?

Farzin Shahbahram
Aldegarian National Party

Date19:59:03, February 04, 2017 CET
FromNational Democratic Union
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageIt is democratic as it stops larger regions from dominating and imposing their will on the rest of the nation.

Date20:10:39, February 04, 2017 CET
FromHezb-e Melli-ye Aldegār
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageSo you believe it is fair that one individual's vote is worth 100,000 times more than another individuals? What a backwards view.

Farzin Shahbahram
Aldegarian National Party

Date10:37:44, February 05, 2017 CET
FromNational Democratic Union
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageAll votes matter the same, therefore they should be equal and contribute the same amount to the same number of seats.

Date18:09:15, February 05, 2017 CET
FromHezb-e Melli-ye Aldegār
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageYour rhetoric does not match your actions. If you proposal was implemented, some votes would be worth more than others. You are hypocrites.

Farzin Shahbahram
Aldegarian National Party

Date23:57:58, February 05, 2017 CET
FromNational Democratic Union
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageI call for the removal of the Member from the Divan for the use of most unparliamentary language.
The government will not stand for these insults of our character- if not for the obstructionism you would obviously create, we would progress of grand plan for the future of the constitution, our vision for a future, democratic country. But you conive to block us at every turn ans stage.

Date08:25:45, February 06, 2017 CET
FromHezb-e Melli-ye Aldegār
ToDebating the Reforming the Nation
MessageWe sincerely apologise if our support for democracy comes in the way of your ability to destroy the culture of our nation.

Farzin Shahbahram
Aldegarian National Party

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 95

no

    Total Seats: 0

    abstain

      Total Seats: 0


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