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Bill: Another one of my military bills
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Calvinist Unionist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2183
Description[?]:
| I've decided to take a less radical step towards strengthening our military, so here is my latest, less extreme military bill. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Civil defence is the government's policy on providing shelters to be used in the event of attacks on major cities, mainly nuclear attacks and bombing.
Old value:: Local authorities are responsible for building and maintaining shelters.
Current: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Proposed: Every public building is required to feature provisions for civil defence and at least 50% of spaces must be allocated to private citizens.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: Defence industries are privately owned and not subsidised.
Current: Defence industries are privately owned but subsidised by the state.
Proposed: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war are treated according to the national laws of the captor power.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women can only serve in non-battle positions.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women serve in segregated units.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:38:29, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | We were about to say this is fascism, but it would've been redundant.... |
| Date | 12:38:49, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | I'm fixing it =D |
| Date | 12:40:38, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | Ok, done. |
| Date | 13:08:41, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | Article three is inappropriate as citizenship should only be granted to those who VOLUNTEER to serve the Empire, but your consripts would become eligible without expressing any interest in Imperial Service. |
| Date | 13:15:38, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | I'm more concerned about article four. |
| Date | 13:18:39, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | I missed that one! Aren't we signatories of the Laloquon Convention any more? |
| Date | 13:20:35, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | We are. |
| Date | 13:38:17, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | Then how was the NPF able to propose article four? This is unconstitutional! |
| Date | 13:44:24, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | I have no idea. |
| Date | 15:06:06, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Shuggoth Progressive Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | We are no longer signatories of the Laloquon Convention. NPH withdrew from the treaty, with the help of the so-called Christian parties. He wanted prisoners of war enslaved, remember. |
| Date | 17:32:52, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | I thought we re-ratified it? |
| Date | 22:20:24, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | You guys should have seen what I had planned to put in before... (mainly mandatory military service, completely controlling defence industries, letting women serve in the same units as men, the government maintains a large amount of public shelters, and prisoners of war are enslaved). |
| Date | 22:22:21, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | Too many un-Christian provisions in this act. The fascists can not fool us into voting them by pretending they are a Christian Party; God and totalitarianism, be it left- or right-wing, do not go along. |
| Date | 02:49:13, February 10, 2006 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | We never pretended to be christian; we are firmly secularist. Religion has no position what-so-ever in the state. |
| Date | 09:10:52, February 10, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | Such a statement is pure fantasy in a Holy EMpire where most of the parties are religious. |
| Date | 09:16:34, February 10, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | True. The Progressive Unionist Party, the Catholic Peoples Party, and the Conservative Party are all Christian parties. The Shuggoth Progressive Party is a Buddhist party. The Luthori Green Party is a secular Christian party. Our nation is religious, the debate is what religion, and its relationship with the state. |
| Date | 13:00:36, February 10, 2006 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Another one of my military bills |
| Message | I'm not saying none of our members are religious, I'm saying that our nation doesn't seek to impose any sort of religious laws on anyone. Kinda like Fascists in Spain and Italy; they tolerated the Catholic Church, which quite a few of it's members were part of, and occasionally used it when it fit their propaganda purposes, but they in no way were a catholic party. One of the key principles of Fascism is that discrimination because of race and religion have no place what-so-ever in the government. The state before everything. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 151 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 400 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 94 |
| Random fact: Culturally Open nations can adopt advisory/non-enforceable Nation Descriptions. See http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6242 |
| Random quote: "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." - George W. Bush |