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Bill: Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon
Details
Submitted by[?]: Whig Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 4179
Description[?]:
| Should Reforms XXXVIII pass http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=508697, we shall offer this legislation: Article I Membership ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1.) This bill shall found the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon 2.) All members of this order shall hold the title, Most Distinguished Patrician of the Order of the Civic Dragon 3.) Membership in the Order shall only be granted by the Peoples Assembly 3.1) Membership in the Order shall only be conferred by a majority vote in the Peoples Assembly 4.) Membership shall be reserved for Heads of State and distinguished members of the Rutanian Government. 5.) The title of Patrician shall not be allowed to pass on to another upon death. Article II Privileges of the Order ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1.) All Patricians in the Order shall be granted special "Observer Status" in the Peoples Assembly. They shall be allowed to be present and seated but not allowed to vote on legislative matters unless they also hold an elected seat in the legislature. 2.) All Patricians in the Order shall be given access to all classified Intelligence Briefings from the Intelligence Agency of the Commonwealth 3.) All Patricians in the Order shall be given access to all classified information from the Ministry of Defense 4.) Patricians shall maintain the right to be exempted from all income taxes. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:38:41, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Whig Party | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | If this bill passes the first order of business afterwards will be to bestow the title of Patrician on the beloved President Lucas Gill |
| Date | 02:39:37, March 10, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | This is a ridiculous bill, attempting to exempt the wealthy and elite from taxes. Starting with the "beloved" President Lucas Gill, beloved by Conservatives. |
| Date | 02:40:43, March 10, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | Perhaps this would be ok if there were a bipartisan commitee with all active parties, to assure that a range of people could receive this. |
| Date | 02:41:11, March 10, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | With signifigant changes, the LPR could support, but not in it's current state. |
| Date | 02:46:25, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Whig Party | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | There is a bipartisan committee, called the Peoples Assembly, only the legislature could confer these rights. |
| Date | 03:02:19, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Civic Republican League of Rutania | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | If the conservative bloc wants to put on funny clothes and call each other silly names, they're welcome to. Just don't involve the government or public funds. |
| Date | 03:05:06, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Whig Party | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | Do income tax exemptions count? |
| Date | 03:12:13, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Civic Republican League of Rutania | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | Yes, as does receiving intelligence briefings. |
| Date | 04:45:27, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Whig Party | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | We view these as reasonable privileges to grant a former president, distinguished members of government may also be conferred the title, this was added to include all parties and not just the major ones. This is typical demonizing from the left, we offer a method to honour our past leaders and use their experience in government. You would expect they would want to honour the long serving Gerrard WinStanley but instead the demonize the Right. |
| Date | 05:05:03, March 10, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | Very clever. A bipartisan committee could be created will equal voting power for all parties, so that the Conservatives could not give tax exemptions to themselves. |
| Date | 05:10:02, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Civic Republican League of Rutania | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | The President is the first among equals, nothing less and nothing more, and already enjoys a pension and lifetime security protection. Serving our great country as its leader is honor enough. If the Whigs want to set up some sort of magic dragon cosplay club as a private organization, they are, again, more than welcome to do so. |
| Date | 05:22:06, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Civic Republican League of Rutania | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | The President is the first among equals, nothing less and nothing more, and already enjoys a pension and lifetime security protection. Serving our great country as its leader is honor enough. If the Whigs want to set up some sort of magic dragon cosplay club as a private organization, they are, again, more than welcome to do so. |
| Date | 05:24:46, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Whig Party | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | The title to the order is a dragon since the dragon, fictional it may be, is the national animal of Rutania. So Civic (government) Dragons (national animal), and the title awarded is that of Patrician, atitle not reminiscent of monarchies . We stand by the belief that allowing former president's an observer seat in the Peoples Assembly and allowing them access to intelligence briefings and Defense info could only benefit the decision making of the legislature. |
| Date | 05:33:05, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Civic Republican League of Rutania | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | The Civic Republican Party apologizes profusely if it made the Whigs' fancy little club sound silly. Rest assured we that will give The Most Serious and Sacred Order of Municipal Dragon Knights Supreme all the deference and respect it is due. |
| Date | 18:06:47, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Whig Party | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | The members of the Whig Party will fight tooth and nail to keep the socialist, communist, and autocrats of the left from ever seeing the honor of the title Patrician or the honor of being in the "fancy little club", Former President Gerrard WinStanley's legacy will rest on the ash heap of history. |
| Date | 22:09:12, March 10, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | So the Whig Party has just said they will reserve tax exemptions for themselves and those who share their ideologies. Pitiful. |
| Date | 23:44:16, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Whig Party | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | When the liberal party finally wins seats in the Peoples Assembly then their opinion shall matter. |
| Date | 23:52:32, March 10, 2017 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Creation of the Noble Order of the Civic Dragon |
| Message | We thank our friends in the Whig Party for this fantastic bill. We also thank them for wanting to bestow President Lucas Gill with the title of Patrician. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 165 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 174 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 61 |
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