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Bill: Name Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partido Social Libertário
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 4185
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: Chanceler da República Democrática
Current: Presidente do Conselho de Ministros (Prime Minister)
Proposed: Ministro-Chefe da Casa Civil
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Presidente da República Democrática
Current: Presidente da República Popular Tukarense (President)
Proposed: Presidente da República
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The official title of the legislative assembly.
Old value:: Assembléia Nacional
Current: Assembleia da República Popular (National Assembly)
Proposed: Congresso Nacional
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:16:03, March 23, 2017 CET | From | União Democrática do Tukarali | To | Debating the Name Reform |
| Message | OOC:Why this obsession of the PSOL with changing the names of the Democratic Republic? What are the reasons for proposing those particular new names, and what makes them any better than the current ones? |
| Date | 12:45:26, March 23, 2017 CET | From | Partido Tukaralii | To | Debating the Name Reform |
| Message | Good questions, UDT. PT Does not mind name changes particularly as OOC: The Primary 'Culture' of this nation has changed from what it used to be so it is likely that there are many pockets of citizens who do not fit the Cultural Norm and this nation will always be fluidly adaptable |
| Date | 15:53:32, March 23, 2017 CET | From | União Democrática do Tukarali | To | Debating the Name Reform |
| Message | OOC: Being adaptable is fine and good. But turning Tukarali into a carbon copy of Brazil is not the same as being adaptable. |
| Date | 21:56:50, March 23, 2017 CET | From | Partido Tukaralii | To | Debating the Name Reform |
| Message | ooc: I agree. If anything, we should be less like brazil. We are Tukaralii and we have 2000+ years of history. Perhaps to not be exactly like brazil, we should consider a different flag? |
| Date | 02:52:19, March 24, 2017 CET | From | Partido Social Libertário | To | Debating the Name Reform |
| Message | OOC: This is more because I dont like the term Chanceler. My cultural formation make me associate it to authoritarian governments (mainly because of V for Vendetta), but its not something we really need to change. If you two want, we can discuss some possiblities, such as Primeiro Ministro, Secretário de Estado, Secretário-Geral da Repúlica or any other. Art 2 is because I think that the name of the HoS is too big, but its personal too. Art 3 its just because, there is no particular reason. I agree we need to create our own country and dont copy real ones |
| Date | 08:48:37, March 24, 2017 CET | From | União Democrática do Tukarali | To | Debating the Name Reform |
| Message | OOC: Well, it seems that our cultural associations for Chanceler are very different. When I think of Chanceler/Chancellor, my first associations are the democratic heads of government of Germany and Austria. I'm open for discussion, and right now I don't really need the need for a change. The title of the Head of State being too 'big' sounds rather esoteric too me. What's 'big' about calling him the President of the Democratic Republic? That is, after all the name of our state. The official titles of Presidents often include the offical name of the state ('Presidente da República Federativa do Brasil', 'Presidente de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos', 'Bundespräsident der Bundesrepublik Deutschland', 'Président de la République française') and and 'President' or 'President of the Republic' is simply used as a shorter form in everyday use. In fact, there would be a case for setting the full title of our President as 'Presidente da República Democrática do Tukarali'. |
| Date | 11:18:04, March 24, 2017 CET | From | Partido Social Libertário | To | Debating the Name Reform |
| Message | OOC: Okay, you changed my mind. I agree with you in this case |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 37 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 138 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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