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Bill: Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)

Details

Submitted by[?]: Liberaldemokraten

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 4188

Description[?]:

We have skipped the debate to test the support for this motion.
The official government position on this is neutral for now.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:04:35, March 29, 2017 CET
FromDarnussisch Bevrijding Voorkant (DBV)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageWe cannot support this. Dorvik has shady ties to the last government. In fact, I would go as far as to call Dorvik a hegemonic aggressor. Their people have acted aggressively to us Darnussians and other ethnic groups. They don't deserve our allegiance.

Saartje Gasner
Justice Minister
Deputy GVV Leader

Date21:18:28, March 29, 2017 CET
From Vereinigte Volkspartei (VVP)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageThe former cabinet had no ties to Dorvik, seems like the GVV has not done their research correctly.

Nikolai Shukanov
NKF Chairman

*TE Laughs*


Date21:23:34, March 29, 2017 CET
FromDarnussisch Bevrijding Voorkant (DBV)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageLaugh while your party has just failed to win an election. You are so insecure you past laws not allowing people to criticise you! And regardless, you burnt enough records to cover Dorvik relations.

More importantly, we do not want to be in a union, and our colleagues in the coalition have ignored us on this issues. We were not consulted, and this sets a dangerous precedent. We would never ignore them. This is a pure example of failing to learn from the past. We know all too well what Dorvik does.

Saartje Gasner
Justice Minister
Deputy GVV Leader

Date21:28:05, March 29, 2017 CET
From Vereinigte Volkspartei (VVP)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageWe actually won the election, there are just too many other parties which share the voters which are not complete supporters of radical-thallerism. If you are able to count, our party occupies 158 seats. You are not very fond of facts are you Gasner?

Nikolai Shukanov
NKF Chairman

Date21:32:32, March 29, 2017 CET
FromDarnussisch Bevrijding Voorkant (DBV)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageYou won? It seems like the TE has a total of 158 seats. And how many seats does the government have? 208. And perhaps if less than 50% of the people of this nation support your racist, fascist, homophobic, disgusting and vile policies then you should grow a heart and stop acting like a snotty bunch of school children. You are the one who seemingly cannot do math. Singular plurality does not equal collective majority.

Saartje Gasner
Justice Minister
Deputy GVV Leader

Date21:34:15, March 29, 2017 CET
From Vereinigte Volkspartei (VVP)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageWell, I am aware of the fact that the government has more seats, but its a sad fact because the whole political specturm had to ally to beat one party. You are desperate and everybody notices it, but not to mention your partners, you are still the most honorable of the bunch. You should rethink the people you work with.

Nikolai Shukanov
NKF Chairman

Date21:37:33, March 29, 2017 CET
FromDarnussisch Bevrijding Voorkant (DBV)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageThere are 3 TE parties and 3 parties in government. And the gap between the government and TE is 50 seats, enough for a moderately sized party. There is determination, not desperation. As far as our partners go, despite this travesty I will still stand up for many of their policies.

Saartje Gasner
Justice Minister
Deputy GVV Leader

Date21:38:55, March 29, 2017 CET
From Vereinigte Volkspartei (VVP)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageOOC: The concept of the TE is that the (TE) parties are actually one party, but act as the different members of parliament forming the internal factions, so it effectively is one Party.

Date21:40:52, March 29, 2017 CET
FromDarnussisch Bevrijding Voorkant (DBV)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageOOC: Oh, then rectify the above as 'There are 3 TE groups, and there are 3 groups in government.'

Date21:41:48, March 29, 2017 CET
From Vereinigte Volkspartei (VVP)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageOOC: Alright, yeah you could not know that, I did not tell you, sorry for that.

Date22:06:32, March 29, 2017 CET
FromLiberaldemokraten
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageOOC: Ahh, understood

Date22:08:08, March 29, 2017 CET
FromLiberaldemokraten
ToDebating the Ratification of the Artanian Intergovernmental Association Treaty (AIGAT)
MessageWe have consulted The GVV and they have expressed their disapproval of the system; however, we believe this is an issue that needs debating and therefore the official government stance is neutral.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
     

Total Seats: 311

no
 

Total Seats: 49

abstain
  

Total Seats: 39


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