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Bill: Abortion Ban Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Popular Action Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 4189
Description[?]:
| Mr Speaker, How can we call ourselves civilised when we continue to allow murder of those yet to be born? Ri Jong-su PAP Chairman |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Proposed: All abortions are illegal.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:25:10, March 30, 2017 CET | From | Conservative Party (보수당) | To | Debating the Abortion Ban Act |
| Message | We are extremely against this bill and wont be supporting it. Women should decide is they want abortions or not. Not the government |
| Date | 21:09:40, March 30, 2017 CET | From | Popular Action Party | To | Debating the Abortion Ban Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Making it seem like it's just about choice like i don't know, vanilla or strawberry ice cream only further dehumanise the countless little humans who are destroyed annually. Would Labour support allowing women to "decide" whether to kill their 17 year old children for instance or does the murder only have to be in utero? Ri Jong-su PAP Chairman |
| Date | 21:26:18, March 30, 2017 CET | From | Conservative Party (보수당) | To | Debating the Abortion Ban Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The women who are having these children are already alive and living. What if they lose their life giving birth to these children. Furthermore, what if they got raped. Is the PAP saying that rapists should get away and make the women have a child they should not have? Plus the example you are using is ludicrous. We are talking about before a child is born in this bill. Not a 17 year old child. That example is not related at all to this. The current bill says in medical emergencies. Don't you think this will stop abortion for no reason? |
| Date | 03:49:55, March 31, 2017 CET | From | Sunrise Party 해돋이당 | To | Debating the Abortion Ban Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We are against this bill partially for the reasons Labour has already discussed, but also because the people doing abortions are the poor and the morally degenerate, groups that typically vote for radical leftists. By banning abortion you'd be sanctioning poverty and also permitting inherently irresponsible parents to raise the next generation which we believe would ultimately corrupt Daekyojeguk's moral values. We believe only those parents who are responsible, decent, hardworking citizens of Daekyojeguk should be raising children so abortion should only be banned for certain classes of citizens, but allowed for others that are not conducive to the stability of the realm. Sung Joo-Won Internal Affairs minister for NCP |
| Date | 08:15:00, March 31, 2017 CET | From | Popular Action Party | To | Debating the Abortion Ban Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Well the main ultra-feminist argument is that abortion should be allowed so that women have self-autonomy and make their decisions independently. The 17 year old child is still dependent on his mother in most cases, as the unborn child is. So if it is ok to kill one, why not the other? You either support child murder or you don't. We of course do not share the NCP's class based arguments, our argument is a moral based one, abortion is wrong under any circumstances and should be banned because all children are a gift to society. Ri Jong-su PAP Chairman |
| Date | 17:17:51, March 31, 2017 CET | From | Conservative Party (보수당) | To | Debating the Abortion Ban Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, You are still failing to see this from the perspective of a married couple and a women. Imagine a man coming home from work and finding out his wife has been raped. Are you really going to force that women to have that child even when it is not with someone she loves? |
| Date | 18:08:48, March 31, 2017 CET | From | Sunrise Party 해돋이당 | To | Debating the Abortion Ban Act |
| Message | To Ri Jong-su, 17 year olds are old enough to contribute to the workforce as we do allow child labor in this nation after all. We must ask why a 17 year is considered a dependent when they are old enough to work? We also dispute that all children are gifts to society, some children are- to put it bluntly-demon spawns from hell which the nation would be better off without. You also partially misunderstand how we mean by classes, in addition to allowing abortion for certain income levels, we also include certain troublesome crime-prone ethnic groups in that definition too which we believe can be reduced via abortion. Sung Joo-Won Internal Affairs minister for NCP |
| Date | 19:19:14, March 31, 2017 CET | From | Republican Party - 공화당 (GHD) | To | Debating the Abortion Ban Act |
| Message | We must also point out that individual is counted as an adult at the age of 16 according to Dranish law and tradition. Aborting a 17 year old would be the equivalent of murder, while a fetus is unborn and not alive. The comparison you're making is not the same at all. Chairman Kang |
| Date | 08:02:52, April 01, 2017 CET | From | Popular Action Party | To | Debating the Abortion Ban Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Very well, imagine it to be a 15 year old, or 6 year old or even better, a day old child. As to Labour's question, whether it's rape or assault or medical emergency, it's no reason enough to devalue another innocent life. Ri Jong-su PAP Chairman |
| Date | 09:44:55, April 01, 2017 CET | From | Social Democrat Alliance | To | Debating the Abortion Ban Act |
| Message | We will never support this Bill, and we are strongly wondering if the Popular Action Party has any idea of what 'popular action' in society means. |
| Date | 18:24:23, April 01, 2017 CET | From | Popular Action Party | To | Debating the Abortion Ban Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Our forebears the old PAP ruled this country for more than a decade so yes, we do. Ri Jong-su PAP Chairman |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 220 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 22 |
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