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Bill: Hutori Economic Reformation Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Peoples Revolutionary Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2185
Description[?]:
| Reformation of the Economics of Hutori for the betterment of the people of Hutori. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning child labour.
Old value:: Child labour is allowed and it is subjected to the same regulations as adult labour.
Current: Child labour is forbidden.
Proposed: Child labour is forbidden.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Tax percentage of the profit made by corporations.
Old value:: 10
Current: 9
Proposed: 35
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Employer's rights in regards to firing striking workers.
Old value:: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Current: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Proposed: Employers cannot fire workers who have gone on strike.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level considered a "living wage," well above the poverty line for a full time worker.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the post office
Old value:: Only private post agencies exist, and the services they provide are unregulated.
Current: There is a nationalised post office agency. Private post offices are allowed to exist but the services provided by them are regulated.
Proposed: There is a nationalised post office agency. Private post offices are allowed to exist but the services provided by them are regulated.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:57:43, February 11, 2006 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Hutori Economic Reformation Bill |
| Message | So then the Neanderthal party want to: 1. Stop children delivering the newspapers and learning the value of money. Also starve all 16 year olds who have left school! 2. Drive all busniess out of Hutori, (that wont even leave you anything to nationalise!) 3. Stop all work as every time someone doesn't feel like work they can go on strike and cannot be fired! (That will probably drive business away quicker even that article 2). 4. Pay people for doing nothing, and pay them more for doing it badly! 5. Slow down the delivery of mail delaying business, and increase the costs of doing so while outlawing any efficient delivery system to ensure the innefficient one can get even more innefficient. Congratulations, you have managed to come up with some policies not seen in Hutori for almost 50 years and there is a damned fine reason why they haven' been seen.............................................they don't work! |
| Date | 03:35:52, February 12, 2006 CET | From | Peoples Revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Hutori Economic Reformation Bill |
| Message | 1) It was you that allowed kids to become adults and to get out of school to better increase your Corporate monoply, and you allow Childern that should be at school learning to be forced to go out and make money. 2) At one point long ago we had the Corporate Tax at 45% and are businesses actually grew. Im sorry you dont remember that but as always a Corporate Monoply blinds you then helping the country. 3) This is to ensure that your Corporate friends cant just fire someone when they go on strike...even for good reasons, because its against there intrests. 4) People deserve enough to live on period...unless you like homeless people. 5) Private companies are in it for the money not the people the government is ran by the people and therefore a public mailing system is better then that of a private one. And your just mad that the people like us leftest parties better because them things that you wont. |
| Date | 14:03:39, February 12, 2006 CET | From | Democratic-Republican Party | To | Debating the Hutori Economic Reformation Bill |
| Message | We'd request that Article 5 be changed to "Private ones are allowed". It should be someone's right to waste their own money on private post. |
| Date | 14:03:57, February 12, 2006 CET | From | Democratic-Republican Party | To | Debating the Hutori Economic Reformation Bill |
| Message | ADDITION: But we support this, anyway. |
| Date | 14:41:48, February 12, 2006 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Hutori Economic Reformation Bill |
| Message | The Libertarian Party are going to submit the PRP's reply above to the Terran Committee for the most BS in a single reply award for 2184! You have not answered a single position I put to you! You are trapped in some type of Communism that only you understand as not even the political sages of our day would recognise that stuff you are proposing as communist, and you call all of this a revolution? 45% drives businesses away, yes we do remember the last time you brought it in, we remember it because all of The Libertarian Party businesses used that time to base themselves offshore and we set up a nice profit earner advising many thousands of other Hutorian businesses how to do the same! Strikes kill businesses, making it illegal to fire those who take unreasonable strike action means jobs for life, whether you work or not, and will drive busniesses away quicker than your ridiculous 45% proposal! It is the right of an employer to fire those he / she employs, if you remove that right the answer for a busniess is simple, do not employ! No employers, no business, no work, no economy no wages to steal to give to the poor! YOU LOOSE! People deserve what they have the talent and ability to earn! No more no less! Now if you want to pay a minimum wage from your own pockets that is one thing, however we are pretty sure you intend to steal it from those who are working (and it will have to be the workers for your 45% tax will drive all the rich offshore where you cannot get their money). Now if charities wish to ensure a minimum income in the poorer areas that is fine, they are in any case in a much better postion than government to do so. The thing is people pay into charities voluntarily, people do not have the luxury of choice with your theftation. Proof of your statement that public mail is better that private? You have none for there is none! Yes private companies are in it for the money, they have to be, and to make money they have to be efficient, the market will not give them the business if they are not! THAT is why they are better that public mail companies who have nothing to gain whther they deliver the mail tomorrow or next year, whether it costs 1 lira to do so or 1 million Lira. Now please try and answer this time, your 'the people' crap is not an argument it has no substance, some facts or some examples of efficient state run busniesses would be nice, (although we will admit you are going to have an EXTREMELY difficult time finding any!) |
| Date | 18:37:13, February 12, 2006 CET | From | Peoples Revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Hutori Economic Reformation Bill |
| Message | We will change Proposal 5 for the DRP to bring in competition between GOC ran mail and Private ran mail operators. |
| Date | 10:16:37, February 13, 2006 CET | From | Northern Lights | To | Debating the Hutori Economic Reformation Bill |
| Message | We only support article 4. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 99 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 148 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 46 |
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