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Bill: Protecting Children Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Farmers Commune

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 4200

Description[?]:

The wretched poor souls of the Likitonia deserve to be able to support their children. Those that cannot provide for themselves are ours to protect.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date10:49:10, April 22, 2017 CET
FromLikatonian Independence Party
ToDebating the Protecting Children Act
MessageWe support this but would prefer to go even further, offering child benefits to all children.

Date11:25:14, April 22, 2017 CET
FromFarmers Commune
ToDebating the Protecting Children Act
MessageWe agree and are revising the bill

Date11:26:50, April 22, 2017 CET
FromSocial Liberal Party
ToDebating the Protecting Children Act
MessageWe support this as it is.

Date11:27:55, April 22, 2017 CET
FromSocial Liberal Party
ToDebating the Protecting Children Act
MessageWell, now we don't. x) Low-income child benefit is as far as it will get our aye vote.

Date11:49:31, April 22, 2017 CET
FromFarmers Commune
ToDebating the Protecting Children Act
MessageSo you believe that the next generation is not worth supporting?

Date12:14:19, April 22, 2017 CET
FromSocial Liberal Party
ToDebating the Protecting Children Act
MessageGiven the fact that our country is over-populated, we agree to support families with low incomes to raise their children. What you are defending is to support all families with children, even the rich who do not need it.

Date12:21:13, April 22, 2017 CET
FromFederalist Party (FPL)
ToDebating the Protecting Children Act
MessageWhy should our government provide child benefits to families that don't need it? Seems like a waste of tax-payer money to us.

Date13:36:44, April 22, 2017 CET
FromFarmers Commune
ToDebating the Protecting Children Act
MessageTo reach a consensus we are willing to make compromises. We have revised the bill to accommodate the majority.

Date14:37:11, April 22, 2017 CET
FromLikatonian Independence Party
ToDebating the Protecting Children Act
MessageLimiting it this way would lead to folks who are just above the poverty line losing child benefits. Placing a disincentive on them to have children or to try and get a raise/job that pays more as this would lead to a hefty cut in their disposable income.

Instead of incentivizing the poor to have children in order to receive benefits, we should have a simple and effective child benefit per child. Period. No unnecessary bureaucratic hurdles. As far as rich children getting benefits, the wealthy pay more in taxes than other folks, giving them a comparatively tiny tax rebate in the form of a child benefit is nothing evil or horrendous. The problems created by cutting out the middle class from child benefits is.

That said, as part of a compromise we will vote in favor of this bill. With the hope that sound arguments would sway those opposed to a universal child benefit program.

Date15:34:33, April 22, 2017 CET
FromSocial Liberal Party
ToDebating the Protecting Children Act
MessageI think we can all agree that this low-income child benefit should be progressive, for example

No income in the family: 100% child benefit
100 LIK family income per child: 95% (For example, 300 LIK of income in a family with 3 children)
200 LIK: 90%
300 LIK: 85%
...
1900 LIK: 5%
2000 LIK family income per child: 0%

(The numbers are orientative)

Date15:21:38, April 23, 2017 CET
FromLikatonian Independence Party
ToDebating the Protecting Children Act
MessageThis reform is certainly a step in the right direction but it would still benefit the poor more than the middle class. As such we stand by our arguments that the child benefit should be independent of income and rely entirely on the child itself.
1 Child = 100% Child Benefit

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
     

Total Seats: 391

no
  

Total Seats: 106

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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