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Bill: Open Society Programme
Details
Submitted by[?]: New Labour, New Mordusia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 4205
Description[?]:
| Reforms to strengthen women's rights, civil liberties & inclusivity in Mordusia. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to adultery.
Old value:: There is no explicit government policy on adultery.
Current: Adultery is illegal, but not prosecuted.
Proposed: Adultery is legal.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Voting rights of criminals.
Old value:: Criminals released from jail are allowed to vote after a certain period of time.
Current: Criminals released from jail are allowed to vote.
Proposed: Criminals are always allowed to vote, regardless of whether they are in jail or not.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Current: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Positive discrimination.
Old value:: No form of positive discrimination is permitted.
Current: No form of positive discrimination is permitted.
Proposed: The government encourages positive discrimination and enforces it for government hiring.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:34:25, May 01, 2017 CET | From | One Mordusia | To | Debating the Open Society Programme |
| Message | This bill would get rid of the death penalty, which cleanses our nation of terrorists, cold blooded murderers and people who want to destroy our nation. These people cannot be kept in jail because they can spread their vile views inside prison, cannot be released because they poison our people. The only option is a death penalty without it, the deterrent is removed and so is pest control. Adultery is wrong and ridiculous, why marry if you are not going to be committed, if you want to live a life of sin and treachery then do not marry! Simple. We stick by the view that positive discrimination is still discrimination and it still singles out a group of people in preference of others. You don't go and hire an an underperforming coloured woman simply because she is coloured and a woman. Any good businessman would know that it is blatantly wrong to pick someone wholly based on gender, race and religion. You look for other traits. Any good person knows that the colour of ones skin or shape of ones genitals does not make them more or less employable. We want an equal playing field, positive discrimination does not allow this. The idea of a ban on prisoners voting was based on the idea of adding a new deterrent, all figures have pointed to petty crime dropping after that piece of legislation was brought in. All in all this bill is allowing terrorists to spread hate, not get appropriate punishment, destroy the positive effects of deterrents and get rid of economic equality. We will vote no. |
| Date | 23:51:40, May 01, 2017 CET | From | Mordusia First! | To | Debating the Open Society Programme |
| Message | We support the argument presented to you by the Capitalist Party. We want our nation to be safe not endangered by Ahmadists that want to kill our people. |
| Date | 21:43:38, May 02, 2017 CET | From | New Labour, New Mordusia | To | Debating the Open Society Programme |
| Message | We believe allowing the state to kill prisoners is wrong on a moral level, but it is also wrong on a practical level. In terms of terrorists, the death penalty risks creating martyrs, exacerbating the problem. It also rules out the possibility of a miscarriage of justice being corrected by the courts, wrongful convictions have and do occur, the death penalty means that this cannot be put right. Legal judgement on the private lives of consenting adults is not something for the state to allow to be seen as ambiguous. You may disagree with adultery, but citizens should have the right to conduct their private affairs as they wish without the law being seen as open to interpretation to the beliefs of others. The assumption that we already live in a meritocracy is unfortunately untrue, because all individuals do not begin from a place of equality. The positive discrimination law would encourage employers to consider the potential of candidates over other, potentially limiting, societal factors. Prior to abolishing our previous reforms in this area, employers were asked to guarantee interviews to candidates with disabilities who matched the person specification of a job. Prison should not be about removing additional liberties from prisoners. They should be encouraged to participate in our society in order that they reintegrate better once released. |
| Date | 23:21:36, May 03, 2017 CET | From | One Mordusia | To | Debating the Open Society Programme |
| Message | in our opinion we do not give a damn about terrorists or murderers, we don't care if they go down as gods we must take action and eradicate this vile cancer from our society. We accept that exceptions would have to be made if there was not enough evidence but that would be a matter for the courts in which we have full confidence unlike labour. Our argument still stands on positive discrimination we appreciate no one is equal but this does not help the situation. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 275 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 277 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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