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Bill: Alcoholic Beverages Bill

Details

Submitted by[?]: SDP

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2081

Description[?]:

Time to sort out our drink

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:15:43, May 31, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Party for Equality
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageWe support.

Date23:14:05, May 31, 2005 CET
FromNational Centrist Party
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageBanning underage drinkers just leads to a culture where it's seen as a popular way to rebel.

Date12:28:38, June 01, 2005 CET
FromRight Wing Liberals Party
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageWe support this.

Date21:04:46, June 01, 2005 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageI think there should be a healthy mix of regulation and deregulation. That way we can still control the influx of alcohol on the market while fighting an underground movement against prohibitive practices.

Date13:01:20, June 02, 2005 CET
FromNational Centrist Party
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageAlso: Why do we need licensed sale outlets? What could that possibly be regulating except an attempt by the government to just take a fee from any store selling alcohol? It's a revenue-grab.

Date03:27:28, June 04, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageI think this bill is too extreme and reminds me of prohibition. While govt regulation in this area is desirable, we do not see replacing shopkeepers with bureaucrats as the solution.

Date13:36:15, June 05, 2005 CET
FromRight Wing Liberals Party
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageOh contrar Having Licensed outlets and or barkeeps means those onselling their goods are liable for who gets it if the onseller has no reason to fear selling to a minor then they will.

However if one had to buy/purchase a Licence and have it updated every few years or so and with heavy fines for breaking these conditions then they should be fined heavily.

We cant have everyone peddling.

Date19:42:19, June 05, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Party for Equality
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageLiscences allow alchohol taxes to be collected more easily and puts a limit on times when alchohol is available, which is important for keeping down noise levels in residential areas at night and other such purposes. can we put this to vote?

Date22:30:11, June 05, 2005 CET
FromNational Centrist Party
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageAlright, I'm convinced on the licenses. Still uncertain about the not-selling-to-minors part.

This will discourage supply, but how can we discourage demand? As long as there are 15-year-olds wanting alcohol, there'll be underage drinkers.

Another thing - are we entirely certain that banning young drinkers is a prudent use of police manpower?

Date05:06:45, June 07, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageHmm RWL you do have a point..

We concur with LFP...how do we keep minors from drinking when there are so many ways around it?

Date14:34:41, June 07, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Party for Equality
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
Messageyou can't stop it, but you can limit it, and you dont need police to enforce it - just make it illegal for shop owners or bar staff to serve it to them.

Date05:37:40, June 08, 2005 CET
FromPeople's Party
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageThe point is seniors can still buy alchohol and serve it to minors.

You can always find someone to get you some if you want it.

Date13:55:18, June 08, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Party for Equality
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
Messageyeah, but you actually have to go to lengths to get it, therefore consumption by minors would at least be significantly reduced.

Date03:57:54, June 13, 2005 CET
FromRepublican Party
ToDebating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill
MessageI don't think it would. The opponents of this bill have it dead on. kids would drink to be cool.

this is tying an undeeded stigma to drinking.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
       

Total Seats: 311

no

    Total Seats: 0

    abstain
     

    Total Seats: 14


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