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Bill: Alcoholic Beverages Bill
Details
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2081
Description[?]:
| Time to sort out our drink |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards alcoholic beverages.
Old value:: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, and can only be available to adults.
Current: Alcoholic beverages are regulated by local governments.
Proposed: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, and can only be available to adults.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:15:43, May 31, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | We support. |
| Date | 23:14:05, May 31, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | Banning underage drinkers just leads to a culture where it's seen as a popular way to rebel. |
| Date | 12:28:38, June 01, 2005 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | We support this. |
| Date | 21:04:46, June 01, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | I think there should be a healthy mix of regulation and deregulation. That way we can still control the influx of alcohol on the market while fighting an underground movement against prohibitive practices. |
| Date | 13:01:20, June 02, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | Also: Why do we need licensed sale outlets? What could that possibly be regulating except an attempt by the government to just take a fee from any store selling alcohol? It's a revenue-grab. |
| Date | 03:27:28, June 04, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | I think this bill is too extreme and reminds me of prohibition. While govt regulation in this area is desirable, we do not see replacing shopkeepers with bureaucrats as the solution. |
| Date | 13:36:15, June 05, 2005 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | Oh contrar Having Licensed outlets and or barkeeps means those onselling their goods are liable for who gets it if the onseller has no reason to fear selling to a minor then they will. However if one had to buy/purchase a Licence and have it updated every few years or so and with heavy fines for breaking these conditions then they should be fined heavily. We cant have everyone peddling. |
| Date | 19:42:19, June 05, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | Liscences allow alchohol taxes to be collected more easily and puts a limit on times when alchohol is available, which is important for keeping down noise levels in residential areas at night and other such purposes. can we put this to vote? |
| Date | 22:30:11, June 05, 2005 CET | From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | Alright, I'm convinced on the licenses. Still uncertain about the not-selling-to-minors part. This will discourage supply, but how can we discourage demand? As long as there are 15-year-olds wanting alcohol, there'll be underage drinkers. Another thing - are we entirely certain that banning young drinkers is a prudent use of police manpower? |
| Date | 05:06:45, June 07, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | Hmm RWL you do have a point.. We concur with LFP...how do we keep minors from drinking when there are so many ways around it? |
| Date | 14:34:41, June 07, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | you can't stop it, but you can limit it, and you dont need police to enforce it - just make it illegal for shop owners or bar staff to serve it to them. |
| Date | 05:37:40, June 08, 2005 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | The point is seniors can still buy alchohol and serve it to minors. You can always find someone to get you some if you want it. |
| Date | 13:55:18, June 08, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party for Equality | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | yeah, but you actually have to go to lengths to get it, therefore consumption by minors would at least be significantly reduced. |
| Date | 03:57:54, June 13, 2005 CET | From | Republican Party | To | Debating the Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | I don't think it would. The opponents of this bill have it dead on. kids would drink to be cool. this is tying an undeeded stigma to drinking. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 311 | |||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 14 |
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