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Bill: Terrorism Prevention Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Go Gaduridos! [PAG]

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 4242

Description[?]:

If this bill passes, the Gaduridan People's Army and the Patriotic Guards will be labeled as dangerous terrorist groups. This will mean that the police and the military should have their dissolution as a top priority. This bill will also prevent members of any of the two groups from being elected as President, Prime Minister, Defence and/or Justice minister.
This means that everyone running for these positions​ will be heavily investigated by a team of, as neutral as possible, members of the Federal Police Agency.

The actions that our military has done recently are simply despicable. If the government collaborates with any further ilegal paramilitary groups, we will be plunged into chaos.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date13:13:20, May 10, 2017 CET
FromHosian Civic Union
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageThe Patriotic Guards are vital for the country's interests and therefore the Armed Forces have begun reining them in. Defence Minister Albert Orellano is currently in talks with the top brass of the Patriotic Guards. We hope that the talks will result in the PG becoming a special battalion of the Armed Forces where they can serve their country in a more constructive way.

We will be voting against this bill. Neither of these groups can really be labelled 'terrorist' due to the fact that terrorists are officially defined as those who deliberately carry out lethal attacks on civilians with the aim of spreading terror to advance their ideals.

We call on all other parties to oppose this overreaching bill.

Kaled Rico
Justice Minister

Date13:13:59, May 10, 2017 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
Message"We are willing to disband the Gaduridan People's Army if Albert Orellano is dismissed and the Patriotic Guards are dissolved."

Pedro Chávez

(OOC: It's Gadurian People's Army, not Gaduridos People's Army.)

Date13:15:00, May 10, 2017 CET
FromGo Gaduridos! [PAG]
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageParamilitaries are ilegal in our country. The government working together with them is an act of treason.

Date13:21:40, May 10, 2017 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
Message"Mr. Rico, the Patriotic Guards have surrounded and practically besieged the Assembly. How is that not terrorism? We will never support a terrorist organization, and never will. The People's Army isn't a terrorist organization, as the UPP has claimed multiple times. If the terrorist "Patriotic Guards" can kill innocent civilians, I think we should at least be able to defend ourselves."

Pedro Chávez

Date13:24:28, May 10, 2017 CET
FromHosian Civic Union
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageTalks have been largely successful. The PG is being assimilated into the army and Gen. Albert Orellano has cut all links with them. The PG is therefore no longer a paramilitary.

Date13:25:10, May 10, 2017 CET
FromGo Gaduridos! [PAG]
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageParamilitaries are ilegal, no matter if you like that not. And the Patriotic Guards and the People's Army are both paramilitary groups.

Date13:25:25, May 10, 2017 CET
FromHosian Civic Union
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageMr Chavez

The PG has never killed any innocent civilians.

Kaled Rico
Justice Minister

Date13:27:08, May 10, 2017 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageWe partially agree with the Apocalypse Party- The Patriotic Guards are terrorists.

Date13:29:52, May 10, 2017 CET
FromGo Gaduridos! [PAG]
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageBut if you agree with that statement, then the People's Arny would be a terrorist group too!


Date13:30:59, May 10, 2017 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
Message"The Patriotic Guards have besieged the Assembly-that's treason."

Date13:32:15, May 10, 2017 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
Message"We have not disbanded the People's Army because the Patriotic Guards are a threat to Gaduridos."

Pedro Chávez

Date13:34:12, May 10, 2017 CET
FromGo Gaduridos! [PAG]
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageBoth of these groups are ilegal and dangerous to our nation. No matter if they're friends with the UPP or the SDP.

Date13:34:13, May 10, 2017 CET
FromHosian Civic Union
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageThe Patriotic Guards have drafted a new charter (OOC: Similar to what the Hamas idiots did last week) and have removed any references to a 'crusade against leftists' as they are assimilated into the military.

Date13:45:44, May 10, 2017 CET
FromGo Gaduridos! [PAG]
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageIf the SDP would do a similar thing with the GPM we will remove this bill.

Date13:50:29, May 10, 2017 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageWe will agree to only station People's Army units at SDP headquarters.

Date14:16:04, May 10, 2017 CET
FromHosian Civic Union
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageIf this were the case we would advocate changing the law as this would basically mean that paramilitaries are legal but heavily regulated.

This should be enshrined in law so that the government is abiding by the Rule of Law and its own constitution.

Date14:23:48, May 10, 2017 CET
FromGo Gaduridos! [PAG]
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageNo I mean the GPM should seek to either dissolve or intergrate itself into the military and get rid of all ideological goals. Which would not make them a paramilitary anymore.

Date14:30:38, May 10, 2017 CET
FromHosian Civic Union
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageOkay that would be fine...if the defence minister were to allow the GPM to integrate into the military.

And he doesnt.

Date14:32:12, May 10, 2017 CET
FromHosian Civic Union
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageWe do however demand that the Queer Liberation Front, known for its SDP links, is designated a terrorist organisation. They have definitely perpertrated attacks on civilians.

Kaled Rico
Justice Minister

Date14:34:23, May 10, 2017 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageWe will allow the QLF to be designated a terrorist organization.

Date14:38:27, May 10, 2017 CET
FromHosian Civic Union
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageTukarali has handed over most of their members that were hiding there, including their High Council of Command.

They will now be tried and, likely, executed for crimes against humanity.

Kaled Rico
Justice Minister

Date14:38:37, May 10, 2017 CET
FromSocial Democratic Party
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
Message"We are willing to integrate the People's Army into the military, if the Defense Minister would allow it."

Date14:42:45, May 10, 2017 CET
FromHosian Civic Union
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageThe Ministry of Defence has confided to me that they will not accept the People's Army, as an organisation, into the military. However if the soldiers of the GPA were to renounce ties to the GPA they would be accepted on a case-by-case basis.

Kaled Rico
Justice Minister

OOC: Yes there are double standards in play here. But what do you expect? We are politicians!

Date16:20:21, May 10, 2017 CET
FromConservative Renew
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageWe completely agree with this bill as we in the SCP are wholly against paramilitaries of any kinds

Date12:26:46, May 11, 2017 CET
FromHosian Civic Union
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageThe Patriotic Guards have agreed to begin withdrawing from positions in Salnaeta and will begin relinquishing control of Occidente over the next 2 months.

Date13:18:55, May 20, 2017 CET
FromHosian Civic Union
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessagePatriotic Guards expelled from Endralon. Seeking new exile in Mordusia.

Date23:49:05, July 15, 2017 CET
FromGo Gaduridos! [PAG]
ToDebating the Terrorism Prevention Act
MessageArchiving

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Total Seats: 102

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Total Seats: 163

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Total Seats: 236


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