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Bill: Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians
Details
Submitted by[?]: New People's Party of Rutania
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 4211
Description[?]:
| It is time to remove the fun tax ememption wizard club. The act will revoke all titles, tax ememptions, briefings and benefits for the Patricians. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Titles of nobility.
Old value:: Titles of nobility may be granted by the government and any other political body designated by it.
Current: Titles of nobility are not granted, but their use is not forbidden.
Proposed: No titles of nobility are granted or recognised, their use is forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:44:27, May 12, 2017 CET | From |  Project Rutania | To | Debating the Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We support our colleagues efforts through this legislation to end peerage and systemic social inequalities. Pauline Roberts, Co-Spokesperson of the Eco-Socialists |
| Date | 03:20:05, May 12, 2017 CET | From | Rutania Party | To | Debating the Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Rutinia Party is in full support of the removal of the Patricians, though are willing to let just let them die out. That being said, the second half of this perposal is in violation of the Treaty Signed by all both sides at the end of the Civil War. Within that treaty the Noblitiy are simply allowed to excites nothing more, nothing less. So, are the PPR so petty, that they my risk another Violent conflict within the nation, just to eradicate a class that has no special powers what so ever? RP, Back Bencher. |
| Date | 23:14:42, May 12, 2017 CET | From | United Democratic Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The UDPR will support this bill, we believe that this is a right step for the country. Ernie Jaylin Sharrow, UDPR Party Representative |
| Date | 19:55:13, May 13, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The PPR does not understand the point of allowing titles of nobility to be granted, just for fun. If we do not intend to grant them, why would we have a law permitting them? In response to the Rutania Party's question, we respond with another: is the Rutania Party really so petty, that they are threatening war over a law that would abolish in their own words "a class that has no special powers what so ever?" Joey Townsend PPR Spokesman |
| Date | 20:38:20, May 13, 2017 CET | From | Rutania Party | To | Debating the Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The PPR have no right calling us Petty, there the ones pushing to break a treaty that was in favor to the Republicans to begin with. As for why they are there, and they should stand, there are part of our Nations History, and great pride to many in our country. Even with no power to the tittles they inspire many in the Nation, and grant hope, which in a time of rebuilding is of most importance. As for violance, this was a simple term which was agreed upon, and if the PPR can't follow rules they set out for themselves, it shows in mutual success they can not be trusted as business partners and in Co-oparation. The RP stayed out of the last Civil War, even though we were the king makes, because we thought it more important to focuse on creating safe zones for are people. We even managed to keep a good section of our nations Capital up, while the rest was torn down. Oh, and those Nobles you hate so much, who's land do you think many of those safe zones were put on? So, your going to spit in the faces of individuals who saved thouseds of lives? The RP stayed out of the War because the "National Front" guaranteed us, that the Noblity would simply be allowed to excite, but know are guarantee no long excites in the Republican Faction, and further the Republican faction can no longer be called that, with all other parties beside the CLR being Communist. This is the RP's "Line In the Sand", if the so called "Republicans" can't live by terms they agreed upon, and wish to destroy group with in are party then there is no hope. In addition, they should think twice before they consider pushing us into violance, you have only one fighting force left with the 'National Front' gone, and support for that force is wavering. RP back bencher, "Most RP members prosed in a mass walk out" |
| Date | 02:54:10, May 15, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians |
| Message | OOC: Please address the speaker and refer to other parties in the third person (eg. instead of "those nobles you hate you so much," "those nobles the PPR hates so much" :) |
| Date | 03:09:14, May 15, 2017 CET | From | Rutania Party | To | Debating the Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians |
| Message | OOC: Thanks, still getting used to the new stuff |
| Date | 03:21:22, May 15, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Does the RP seriously think we should keep the Order, just for nostalgia? The Rutania Party, while technically staying out of the war, maintain many affiliations with paramilitaries, and secured "safe zones" with force, in an area that SHOULD have been controlled by the rightful government! *slams table, applause* We are drawing our own line in the sand. The RP likes to pretend that they are centrists, but they consistently work with the right, and disregard 3 out of the 4 centre-to-left parties as communist. As a member of the Anti-Communist League, the so-called party committed to co-operation, is trying to make an enemy out of three parties they've labeled as communist. In regards to the statement, the PPR is not communist. Unlike the RP, we've proven that we are flexible, and willing to compromise. How dare the RP threaten violence on us for disagreeing with them. We will never use violence. Instead of leaving the assembly like children, we will remain seated and fight for what we think is right. What is right for Rutania. We move this to a vote. *applause* James Frill PPR Leader |
| Date | 03:21:52, May 15, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians |
| Message | OOC: No problem! |
| Date | 03:42:09, May 15, 2017 CET | From | Rutania Party | To | Debating the Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians |
| Message | "Maximilian Fleischmann stands in the almost baron area where the RP was" Mr. Speaker, In regards to the Order, as stated before, the RP has no concern as to what happens to it. As seen when Mr. King stepped down, he had no interest in taking his seat as a Partican in the Assembly. The RP even purposed a bill to remove the Order before, however it never got passed to debate stage. Now, unlike my other party members who expressed there opinions more crudely, we believe the Nobility has the right to remain in name only, and can agree that Noble tittles such as the Order need to be trimmed down, or removed. As for what was stated in terms of co-operation, we try very hard to do as such, but co-operation is a 2 way street, in almost all of the RP's bills we open the debate to all other parties but, very rarely to we see any co-operative words from are friends on the left. Maximilian Fleischmann, RP Leader |
| Date | 22:18:50, May 15, 2017 CET | From | New People's Party of Rutania | To | Debating the Repeal and Removal of the Noble Order of Patricians |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We rarely see the point of announcing our opinions of the RP will ignore them and do as they please anyways. James Frill PPR Leader |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 331 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 321 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 72 |
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