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Bill: Progressive Reform Bill - Open Immigration

Details

Submitted by[?]: Progressive Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 2188

Description[?]:

We propose to allow all refugees into Likatonia and propose to aid them in their integration into Likatonian society through immigrant education centers and job training and placement programs. There will be no transfer payments (for example, a minimum income) as a part of this plan.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date11:02:56, February 16, 2006 CET
FromLikaton Fascist Front
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - Open Immigration
MessageWe will fully back this. Compassion is the cornerstone to our caring society.

Date17:24:17, February 16, 2006 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - Open Immigration
MessageHow do the Progressive Party suggest we fund this 'hand-out' program?

Date20:07:44, February 16, 2006 CET
FromProgressive Party
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - Open Immigration
MessageTax revenues from all these refugees will eventually give us a return on our investment. We see Likatonia as a beacon of human achievement. Our education system produces some of the best and brightest minds in Terra, and we don't have a doubt that refugees who wish to come here love this country and would work their hardest to be able to stay here.

Date20:25:29, February 16, 2006 CET
FromProletariat Revolution Party
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - Open Immigration
MessageBut they should still have to qualify for citizneship as the other immigrants have to.

Date20:30:56, February 16, 2006 CET
FromAM Radical Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - Open Immigration
MessageThe current budget of 20,000,000,000 LIK for Education and Culture and 15,000,000,000 LIK for Health and Social Services should be able to absorb the temporary increases sought for in this bill; if not we are running a annual surplus of 2,820,497,158 LIK which could be transfered to either of these ministries upon provable need.

Date05:11:18, February 17, 2006 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - Open Immigration
MessageThe AM AAP agrees that, on the surface, it looks like we can absorb immigrants. The AM AAP further agrees that many immigrants will later become productive members of Likatonian society.

However, that isn't the situation we see here.

We are talking, here, about unregulated immigration of 'refugees'.... and yet, it appears that other nationalities can now claim 'refugee' status.... for no reason. And, if they do... we allow them free and open access, AND financial incentive.

This is not the same as allowing 'genuine' refugees (i.e. those that are seeking 'refuge' from a cataclysmic event, or some form of oppression) in.... this is opening our borders to ANY citizen of ANY nation, who thinks he or she might be able to get a better pay packet in Likatonia.

And, when they get here, we are going to pay for their schooling, too?

35 Billion LIK of Education and Social funding, is not going to last long once it has to deal with the entire Likatonian need, AND open borders.

Date07:52:09, February 17, 2006 CET
FromLikaton Fascist Front
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - Open Immigration
MessageWe beleive that refugees flowing into our country are long term drain on the economy. People that enter Likatonia are seeking a peaceful life, and these are the sort of people we want.

Many refugees are already educated, therefore schooling needs are minimal with perhaps the exception of language courses.

Frequently people who adopt another country in the longer term repay that country back many times over with a strong work ethic and a richer culture.

Date14:08:33, February 18, 2006 CET
FromLikaton Fascist Front
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - Open Immigration
MessagePrevious post should read "We beleive that refugees flowing into our country are NOT A long term drain on the economy."

Date19:35:32, February 18, 2006 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - Open Immigration
Message(OOC: ah... I DID wonder....)

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 119

no
     

Total Seats: 303

abstain
 

Total Seats: 78


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