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Bill: Hosian Front Religious Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hosian Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4231
Description[?]:
| Hosian Front Bill |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change State penalties for blasphemy
Old value:: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Current: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Proposed: Public blasphemy is considered a criminal offense.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Current: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Proposed: All schools are required to be religious in nature.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers are mandatory in schools.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: People are required to dress according to religious codes
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:16:57, June 23, 2017 CET | From | Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Hosian Front Religious Bill |
| Message | Members of Congress, I am stunned for words! I cannot see any reason for any of these proposals to pass, and as the Hosian Front has failed to provide any I shall simply respond to each Article in turn. Firstly, Public Blasphemy being a criminal offense! What! Is there no such thing as freedom of speech? I assume that the Hosian front would not support it being a criminal offence to blaspheme Ahmadism, or Yeudi, or Thetanism, what makes Hosianism any different? They are all the worship of an imaginary sky-fairy and are all equally ridiculous. Everyone should be allowed to think what they want and do what they want regardless of how other people think. In the same way that you shouldn't be punished for your authoritarian attitude, nobody should be punished for not adhering to your belief system. Secondly, everybody being forced to wear according to religious commandments. Yet another attempted withdrawal of the human liberty to act and do as one wishes. I see no rationalization for this article and defy anyone to support it. In relation to Articles 3 and 4, forcing all schools to be religious in nature and mandating prayer in school. We in the SSPB have made our arguments against religious schooling previously here: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=519426 However for now I will just say that indoctrination into religion is a violation of the rights of the children and harms them academically and morally (OOC:http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289611000912 http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1088868313497266?journalCode=psra https://www.bu.edu/learninglab/files/2012/05/Corriveau-Chen-Harris-in-press.pdf ). And finally, a mandatory membership of a state religion is a violation of not only the secular values that I hold dear, and not only to rights of all to freedom of speech and freedom of expression, but perhaps most importantly it is a violation of the freedom of thought of all citizens of Baltusia which is something none of us should be comfortable with. To conclude, I ask you all members of Congress to vote against this bill as it is a violation of the democratic values you hold dear. It is clear the Hosian front shares none of these values with us and as proof I give you the following: The Hosian Front has officially applied to be a member of an organization named 'The Right-Wing Brotherhood' which champions among its principles and I quote: "...Fascism, [and] Radical Nationalism". If any of you vote in favor of this bill then I guarantee the electorate will remember it and you will be punished deeply for decades to come. Gilbert Combs (Leader of the Opposition) |
| Date | 18:36:00, June 23, 2017 CET | From | Hosian Front | To | Debating the Hosian Front Religious Bill |
| Message | Mr Combs, There is freedom to speak among one another, but talk against God is evil. It does the person bad and sets them on a course for damnation. And, no, Hosianism is very different. It is the light and the truth. All of these proposals are for the good of the souls of this country, so that they may not be cast into eternal damnation. Regarding religious schooling, again, we must prepare our young people to live a life free from evil sin. It is better for a child to be good and pious than to be athletic, or 'academic'. Those are secondary. We ourselves are not 'fascists', but indeed we are nationalists. In that we love Baltusia and want it to be holy and free from the sin you idolize. Danielle Sutton Leader of the Hosian Front |
| Date | 00:23:36, June 24, 2017 CET | From | United Democratic Party - Syndicalists | To | Debating the Hosian Front Religious Bill |
| Message | THis is crazy as an atheist I am a deeply troubled by this bill and would be sincerely scared by this bunch of loonies |
| Date | 09:47:10, June 24, 2017 CET | From | Hosian Front | To | Debating the Hosian Front Religious Bill |
| Message | To the RACP, Very eloquent. Danielle Sutton Leader of the Hosian Front |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 310 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 290 |
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