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Bill: Constitutional Court of Gaduridos
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hosian Civic Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4237
Description[?]:
| This bill will establish the Constitutional Court of Gaduridos. The Constitutional Court is the highest court of appeal and will also rule on all matters relating to the Constitution. There will be 9 Constitutional Court Justices that will serve for a maximum of 30 years each. All vacancies will be filled by appointment by the President of the Union. To chose the starting 9 Justices a new Justice will be appointed after each election until all posts are filled. A Justice can only be removed before the expiration of his term if he becomes unable to serve or if a vote of no confidence against him receives 2/3 support. OOC: If this bill passes then the President will nominate one Justice and the other 8 temporary Justices will be chosen by the Ministry for Justice. After the next election one of these Justices will be replaced by the president and so on until we have 9. After 30 years or the Justice's death the incumbent President will nominate a replacement. We will keep a record of who the Justices are and when they will retire. Unless otherwise specified the Justices will be controlled by the player that nominated them. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:33:28, June 26, 2017 CET | From | Gaduridos Communist Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Court of Gaduridos |
| Message | I think it would be better to have a Constitutional Court, with members being appointed by the Federal Assembly. |
| Date | 23:03:51, June 26, 2017 CET | From | Hosian Civic Union | To | Debating the Constitutional Court of Gaduridos |
| Message | Okay. That would make it a bit more unique too. Good idea. |
| Date | 10:09:17, June 30, 2017 CET | From | Hosian Civic Union | To | Debating the Constitutional Court of Gaduridos |
| Message | I still do think though that the President should make the appointments whenever a vacancy arises. It would make the president mean a bit more too. |
| Date | 10:27:27, July 03, 2017 CET | From | Hosian Civic Union | To | Debating the Constitutional Court of Gaduridos |
| Message | Ive made edits. What does everyone think? |
| Date | 13:44:57, July 05, 2017 CET | From | NLP | To | Debating the Constitutional Court of Gaduridos |
| Message | This would mean: - Ruling coalitions get way too much power (8/9 justices!) - Minister of Justice is now the most important position in the country (8/9 justices!) Gonna have to agree with the GCP here - probably better to have Federal Assembly votes. However, maybe the President nominates them? |
| Date | 14:33:13, July 05, 2017 CET | From | Hosian Civic Union | To | Debating the Constitutional Court of Gaduridos |
| Message | - But they would soon be removed as after each election the Pres nominates a replacement for them. - To be fair that is a gross overstatement - it would temporarily make the Minister of Justice quite important but overall the President would be the most powerful. However if you everybody really feels strongly I could make a new bill that incorporates some of your suggestions? The main idea though is to give the President more power and meaning in the country. |
| Date | 15:07:01, July 05, 2017 CET | From | NLP | To | Debating the Constitutional Court of Gaduridos |
| Message | Yeah, but it would mean that at any given time, the Minister of Justice would control 8/9 justices (which is effectively 9/9 since majority). How does that not make the role of Minister of Justice the most important one? |
| Date | 15:11:31, July 05, 2017 CET | From | Hosian Civic Union | To | Debating the Constitutional Court of Gaduridos |
| Message | I mean its not literally THE most important. But I agree it does perhaps make him too important. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 230 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 243 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 28 |
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