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Bill: Parlimentary Size Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Demokratische Einheit Partie

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 4237

Description[?]:

129 Seats

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:09:04, July 06, 2017 CET
FromLiberale Partei
ToDebating the Parlimentary Size Act
MessageWe hope the parties see how ridiculous this is. Not only will this limit democratic freedom and make it harder for smaller parties -- turning us into a one-party state -- the likely first government would be a far-right fascist regime -- and all negotiations with Luthoria would also cease. Don't be stupid.

Alexander Feigenbaum
Bundeskanzler
LP Leader

Date18:11:45, July 06, 2017 CET
From Ordnungsfraktion
ToDebating the Parlimentary Size Act
MessageYes, Feigenbaum said it. Do not be stupid. Vote for a united Conservative Coalition!

Uther von Gotha
TE Abgeordneter

Date18:19:07, July 06, 2017 CET
FromLiberale Partei
ToDebating the Parlimentary Size Act
MessageNo, I did not say that. Needless to say you are avoiding the argument, because you are only supporting this measure for your own benefit.

I humbly request that the Speaker of the House instructs Gotha to be more careful with the implied speaker, to avoid one being misquoted in future.

Alexander Feigenbaum
Bundeskanzler
LP Leader

Date18:21:25, July 06, 2017 CET
From Ordnungsfraktion
ToDebating the Parlimentary Size Act
MessageIt is not my responsibility to ensure that your statements are only interpretable the way you want Herr Feigenbaum.

Armin Wecker
Vorsitzender des Hauses

Date18:59:56, July 06, 2017 CET
FromLiberale Partei
ToDebating the Parlimentary Size Act
MessageI am not suggesting, Herr Wecker, that my statements are interpreted in one way and one way alone -- in fact, I was not discussing this in any way. I was discussing the action of misquoting someone to suggest a totally false point which one had not ever explicitly or implicitly suggested. I would suggest only that members of the Bundestag avoid intentionally or otherwise misquoting me and applying false statements to my name within these chambers -- or that of anyone else for that matter. I would hope we can be more clear in future -- I feel Gotha's original statement was rather unclear and aimed to show that I had suggested my own support for a conservative coalition, which is clearly a falsehood and the words had been taken out of context.

Still, I understand your reasoning in this situation and I see that perhaps this was less of a direct misquotation and simply a more vague statement than I would feel is reasonable and fair, implying that I had said something which I certainly did not and skewing the meaning of my words. Still I respect your decision.

If I may, I would also suggest that you have implied yourself that I am attempting to control the interpretations of my own statements and phrased that in a directly biased way -- specifically with regards to "the way you want", it clearly implies some kind of sinister aspect to my actions -- perhaps unintentionally, of course. I would hope that the Speaker remain neutral at all times, as they are charged with doing so, and I am not accusing you of purposefully trying to show bias or anything of that sort -- merely providing my own interpretation of your words and making a humble suggestion. I apologise if I have caused any offence.

I would also like to humbly request that we stay to the matter at hand. If Gotha wishes to debate the government, then do so in the correct situation -- not midway through a totally separate debate. At least make the point relevant in some way. I believe that would be under your jurisdiction, Armin?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Alexander Feigenbaum
Bundeskanzler
LP Leader

Date20:21:33, July 06, 2017 CET
From Ordnungsfraktion
ToDebating the Parlimentary Size Act
MessageAlexander, I agree with you. Thank you for your words.
Of course I try to be neutral at all times, that is why I have to ask Uther to please stay at the topic at hand.

Armin Wecker
Vorsitzender des Hauses

Date20:58:54, July 06, 2017 CET
FromLiberale Partei
ToDebating the Parlimentary Size Act
MessageThank you. My apologies if we have seemed to have tense relations today. No hard feelings.

Alexander Feigenbaum
Bundeskanzler
LP Leader

Date21:02:48, July 06, 2017 CET
From Ordnungsfraktion
ToDebating the Parlimentary Size Act
MessageAgreed Alexander, we are here to ensure that the legislation of our country works and our people are represented. (OOC: assuming its the end of the debate/work-day)
Now let us enjoy a the evening after a hard day of work gentlemen.

Armin Wecker
VdH

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 287

no
 

Total Seats: 95

abstain
   

Total Seats: 118


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