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Bill: Legislative and Executive Term Length Reduction
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socialist Party - Páirtí Sóisialach
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4241
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The length of a legislative and executive term, in months. Should be between 24 and 72.
Old value:: 42
Current: 42
Proposed: 30
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:00:15, July 14, 2017 CET | From | Kirlawan People's Justice Party | To | Debating the Legislative and Executive Term Length Reduction |
| Message | Welcome :) Please note that there's a reason it's 42 months. Despite that working out to an ICly clumsy three-and-a-half years. It's because that's exactly one OOC week, meaning that the elections happen at the exact same time every OOC week, very nicely and conveniently and easy to plan for. For this reason, we will strongly oppose any attempt to change it away from 42 months. Just for curiosity, please, why are you advocating 30 months? Not only would this (just like any figure which isn't 42) ruin the OOC convenience of having the elections happen at the same time every OOC week ... it wouldn't even make any IC sense either, being a similarly ICly clumsy two-and-a-half years. At least 24 months (two years), 36 months (three years), 48 months (four years), 60 months (five years), or 72 months (six years) would make IC sense. ... although KPJP would certainly still vote against any of them; because for me, the OOC convenience much outweighs all. We would only mildly oppose setting it to 21 months or to 84 months. The former would mean two elections per week, each at the exact same time each week. The latter, one election every fortnight, at the exact same time each fortnight. Neither of these is _quite_ as neat and clean as one-per-week, but they're clearly better than any other. Unfortunately, Particracy doesn't allow any setting shorter than 24 months, nor longer than 72, so neither of these is permitted. :( Other nations' settings at this exact moment: http://classic.particracy.net/viewvariable.php?variable=TERM_LENGTH 3 nations at 24 months (two years) 1 nation at a clumsy 30 months (two-and-a-half years) 9 nations at 36 months (three years) 1 nation at a nonsensical 40 months (three years four months) 5 other nations, plus ourselves, see the wisdom and convenience of having the elections at the same time every OOC week: ICly 42 months (three-and-a-half years) 22 nations, perhaps influenced by the OOC USA, at 48 months (four years) 5 nations at 60 months (five years) 11 nations at 72 months (six years) Only two of Particracy's 58 nations currently use a weird figure which is neither an exact number of IC years, nor an exact number of OOC weeks. |
| Date | 06:08:56, July 14, 2017 CET | From | Ár Ré - Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Legislative and Executive Term Length Reduction |
| Message | Opposed as well for the reasons above. |
| Date | 10:31:59, July 14, 2017 CET | From | Socialist Party - Páirtí Sóisialach | To | Debating the Legislative and Executive Term Length Reduction |
| Message | OOC: Meant 36, sorry only noticed now |
| Date | 10:31:59, July 14, 2017 CET | From | Socialist Party - Páirtí Sóisialach | To | Debating the Legislative and Executive Term Length Reduction |
| Message | OOC: Meant 36, sorry only noticed now |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 116 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 601 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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