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Bill: Democratic Workers' Councils

Details

Submitted by[?]: Cakan Komünist Partisi

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 4248

Description[?]:

Majority of the industries are run by Democratic Workers' Councils, but it is not enough. All industries should be run by Democratic Workers' Councils.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date23:00:06, July 26, 2017 CET
FromMetzist Parti
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils
MessageGiving the control of industries to workers wouldn't be a smart choice.

Date23:01:54, July 26, 2017 CET
FromMetzist Parti
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils
MessageGiving the control of industries to workers wouldn't be a smart choice.

Date23:06:03, July 26, 2017 CET
FromCakan Komünist Partisi
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils
MessagePosition of Liberal "Demokrat" Parti shows that they dont support a real democracy. A real democracy can only be achieved with a worker's state.

Date23:07:18, July 26, 2017 CET
FromCakan Komünist Partisi
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils
MessagePosition of Liberal "Demokrat" Parti shows that they dont support a real democracy. A real democracy can only be achieved with a worker's state.

Date23:16:03, July 26, 2017 CET
FromMetzist Parti
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils
MessageIf you give control of state to workers they would create an absolute authoritarian regime to bring equality (eating potatoes everyday is very equal i accept that) and actually this wouldn't be democratic i suppose.

Date08:47:53, July 27, 2017 CET
FromCakan Komünist Partisi
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils
MessageIf you look at some examples like Soviet Union and Cuba, you can see that they are and were fairly democratic. Soviet Union had Workers' Councils and they had elections. Same with Cuba, they elect regional worker representatives to form a council. My second point is how you made fun of Holdomor. Holdomor was a natural famine caused by the lack of rain clouds. Of course I agree that collectivised farms had a part in that famine, but 91% of the population still agreed to keep collectivised farms only ones that did not benefit from those are probably those 9%. You criticize Soviet Union for having a famine, but you don't talk about GOVERNMENT caused food shortages before the October Revolution. Soviet policies turned a dirty poor country to a world superpower.

Date09:52:02, July 27, 2017 CET
FromCakan Komünist Partisi
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils
MessageSorry for not explaining, Soviet Union and Cuba were theoretical countries created by an ultra detailed economic and political simulation by Trigunian government.

Date21:42:08, July 27, 2017 CET
FromSosyaldemokrat Halkçı Parti
ToDebating the Democratic Workers' Councils
MessageThis bill needs some actual articles to have any effect. CHP will abstain.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 0

no
  

Total Seats: 209

abstain
  

Total Seats: 326


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