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Bill: Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever

Details

Submitted by[?]: Konservative Partei

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 4256

Description[?]:

Intimate relations and close socialisation between members of the Dundorfian race and other, less developed races cannot and must not be condoned. They are matters which correctly cause feelings of disgust among right-thinking people.

- Lena Wessels, culture spokesperson for the Konservative Partei.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date08:36:10, August 12, 2017 CET
FromFreie Demokratische Partei
ToDebating the Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever
MessageExtremely absurd and medieval ideas, who go against international law and basic ideas of enlightenments.
A1,2,4 are enforcing institutionalised racism and prevent equal opportunity for everyone.
A3 has no factual backround and likewise is only restricting civil rights.
A5 extremely unacceptable article, slavery is in no capacity unobjectionable.

This bill restricts freedom and equality and has no factual background, we the FDP will try to help any people affted by this law.

Date13:13:01, August 12, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Partei
ToDebating the Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever
MessageWe note the FDP's pledge to "help any people affected by this law". We note, in that connection that:
(1) assisting somebody to commit a criminal offence is, itself, a crime; and
(2) such crimes are usually punishable by death.

If you really do try to follow through on your pledge to "help" people who try to engage in sexual deviancy or subversive activity against the state, we cannot guarantee your personal safety. That is not a threat: it is the law.

- Julia Holst, justice minister.

Date13:44:04, August 12, 2017 CET
FromFreie Demokratische Partei
ToDebating the Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever
MessageLegalising slavery and enforcing segregation is pure hipocrisy. We will work within all the confinements of the law to protect these people. The government is breaking international law, our party members are merely enforcing it and if people get executed because of that, then this country is a fledgling dictatorship run by cowards. We will have to call for international intervention.

We are all people, we are the same species, we are all equal.

Collegial presidency of the
-FDP

Date15:10:04, August 12, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Partei
ToDebating the Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever
MessageThe FDP, aside from being unable to spell "hypocrisy", also clearly does not understand what that word means.

And frankly, we do not care about your hollow threats about "international intervention". We were elected by the people of Dundorf. The foreign filth you supposedly want to intervene are not elected. You want to subvert the democratic will of the people and orchestrate an undemocratic foreign takeover. Now THAT is hypocrisy.

[Representatives across the chamber laugh derisively at the FDP.]

- Julia Holst, justice minister.

Date15:23:04, August 12, 2017 CET
FromDundorfische Nationalistische Allianz
ToDebating the Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever
MessageCalling for international intervention? Such laws are laws of this country regardless if you agree with them or not. By suggesting such a thing, you are eroding our national sovereignty. So long as they are just words, we won't act but should you decide to ask foreign powers to interfere in our democratic process, that is treason and treason will be punished to the full extent of the law.

Niclas Donnerwolf
DNA Leader

Date16:23:44, August 12, 2017 CET
FromFreie Demokratische Partei
ToDebating the Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever
MessageAlright hold on. Let's calm down, this is not a civil war, but (hopefully) a civil discussion.
Our points on the matter:

(1) We would like to firmly apologise for misspelling *hypocrisy,* yet your claim infringes the game rule §3.2.

(2a) Slavery is in no way acceptable, saying that slavery isn't hypocrisy is a denial of facts.
(2b) Democratically elected governments may become authoritarian and breake international law.

(3) Breaking international law carries consequences, nevertheless international law is supreme over national law, and if citizens decide to enforce international law they're not commiting crimes.

(4) "Representatives across the chamber laugh derisively at the FDP," We remain unamuzed.

(5) You are actually treasonous for removing the Bundesrepublik.

(6) Now let's try to have a more calm dialogue (trialogue?).

Collegial presidency of the
-FDP

Date00:32:35, August 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Partei
ToDebating the Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever
MessageUtter nonsense. Perhaps the FDP needs a refresher course on basic constitutional law. [Laughter across the parliament.]

National law is superior to international law. Moreover, the only international laws that this law "breaks" are treaties that Dundorf is not a member of. Those treaties therefore have no effect.

- Julia Holst, justice minister.

Date03:16:15, August 13, 2017 CET
FromDundorfische Nationalistische Allianz
ToDebating the Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever
MessageCalling for a foreign power to interfere in our politics is treason. Treason is an offence under the law. I have briefed the entire ministry of defence , the head of the intelligence agency and the national chief of police about this. They are all ready for any such action to take place and to arrest anyone who perpentrates an act of treason. As soon as the bill takes effect, the army will be placed on high alert.

Elizabeth Feilhaber
Minister of Defence


Date07:51:43, August 13, 2017 CET
FromFreie Demokratische Partei
ToDebating the Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever
MessageTo summarise, the government is saying that slavery is supreme over international freedom and that helping people affected negatively by slavery & segregation is treason and punishable by death. People who want to help these people are in the opposition. So the government is cracking down on the opposition.

You are the actual traitors, for destroying our beautiful Bundesrepublik.

Date08:05:44, August 13, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Partei
ToDebating the Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever
MessageThe FDP is clearly becoming deranged.

[Laughter throughout the chamber.]

The government is cracking down on deviant behaviour, not "the opposition". If the opposition follows the law, then you have nothing to fear from any "crackdown". If you engage in deviant behaviour, or you help other people to engage in deviant behaviour, then you will be breaking the law and you will be punished like any other person.

That is what "the rule of law" means: if you break these laws, then you will be punished.

- Julia Holst, justice minister.

Date09:14:00, August 13, 2017 CET
FromDundorfische Nationalistische Allianz
ToDebating the Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever
MessageThe Government and its institutions enforce the law regardless of whether you agree with them. I must repeat again that establishing foreign interference in our government is treason. Perhaps you'd like to change the law on the odd occasion that you might get into power someday but until that day comes, you follow the laws of this land.

Niclas Donnerwolf
DNA Leader

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 500

no
 

Total Seats: 0

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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