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Bill: The new "Sorry orange" coalition

Details

Submitted by[?]: Freie Demokratische Partei

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 4259

Description[?]:

We need a temporary government, since a liberal conservative coalition was not well thought through, we propose another left-leaning coalition. This time we want to apologise for all the mistakes made by us. We will discuss a more organised government soon. Also proposing a cabinet.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date23:05:55, August 18, 2017 CET
FromFreie Demokratische Partei
ToDebating the The new "Sorry orange" coalition
MessageWe will make Dundorf more orderly, freedom loving and equal. But in order to do that, we will have to negotiate more precise terms. We were very disfunctional last time, I will not allow this again. From now on it's just compromise, progress and liberty!
Each party will be designated certain legislative proposals, that we all (or at least 3/4) agree on.

The first round we held in Zerlin, every coalition party should send me a letter with the following material:
-Laws they wish the most to pass
-Overall values (environmental, economic, military etc.)
-How much and where you are willing to compromise the most
-Fiscal policy (taxation and spending programme)
We will come up with another idea for the second round. But let's do it like other civilised countries do it.
The opposition will not be included in the government, despite our efforts to maximise pluralism, but they will get certain new rights.

Date23:07:51, August 18, 2017 CET
FromFreie Demokratische Partei
ToDebating the The new "Sorry orange" coalition
MessageDoes anyone have any other good ideas? I would love to hear them.

-Chancellor Lukas Lustenberger
-Programme writen by Ministry of Internal Affairs Sophie Morgenthau
FDP

Date00:03:54, August 19, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Partei
ToDebating the The new "Sorry orange" coalition
MessageThe FDP is simply not credible. It changes its mind every five minutes and seeks to turn the government of this country into a plaything. The only principle it seems to have is that it wants to hold the chancellery: even though it holds a pitiful 49 seats in this chamber.

We have an unprecedented offer to make to the SED, the FPD and the LgV. Although the three of you do not hold a majority of seats without the FDP, we will vote in favour of a minority government that includes only the SED, the FPD and the LgV. Dundorf demands stability. It will not have stability if the FDP is involved in government.

- Jens Hanel, Fraktionsvorsitzender der Konservativen Partei.

Date00:17:01, August 19, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Partei
ToDebating the The new "Sorry orange" coalition
Message[OOC: Sorry, left off this bit:]

The only condition on our offer is that the SED does not hold the chancellery. Otherwise, we are not concerned about who holds which ministries in a minority government.

- Jens Hanel, Fraktionsvorsitzender der Konservativen Partei.

Date08:52:36, August 19, 2017 CET
FromFreie Demokratische Partei
ToDebating the The new "Sorry orange" coalition
MessageThe problem with the idea expressed by the KP is that a minority government would not provide stability, and would essentially mean that the confidence of the coalition is dependent on the right wing parties, who could use this as a political extortion tool.

Your proposal also isn't credibe, you don't want the SED to get the chancellorship, and are angry that we want it, with only 49 seats. If the SED doesn't get it, the FPD gets it, who have even less seats than we do.

In a nutshell, the KP wants to glue together the SED,LgV & FPD, but barring the SED from getting any power. The KP/DNA are only angry, because we didn't support their coalition proposal, we didn't support it, because our voters disagreed with us and we want to do things right. But we are happy to see that KP/DNA have adopted more moderate world views.

Collegial presidency of the
-FDP

Date10:47:29, August 19, 2017 CET
FromKonservative Partei
ToDebating the The new "Sorry orange" coalition
MessageAs you seem to be a bit slow, let me spell it out for you. As any halfwit can see, the point is not that a chancellor must come from the largest party. The point is that your only commitment is pretending to be a kingmaker, whether or not you have a mandate to do so. And you don't have a mandate.

You have the attention span of a gnat. Tomorrow you'll support a different coalition, because it's oh-so-fun to mess with the government of the country.

You have proposed 18 bills in your existence. Five of those bills have been cabinet proposals and a sixth was a nonsense call for early elections. We're not playing your sad little game. And nobody else wants to play your game either. Have you noticed that the SED, LgV and FPD have all been silent about your proposal? Go back to the sandpit where you belong.

[Cheering and applause from all the non-FDP representatives.]

- Jens Hanel, Fraktionsvorsitzender der Konservativen Partei.

Date16:09:10, August 19, 2017 CET
FromDemokratische Partei Dundorfs
ToDebating the The new "Sorry orange" coalition
MessageWe would prefer a discussion on a new coalition rather than this rush job.

Date20:43:48, August 19, 2017 CET
FromFreie Demokratische Partei
ToDebating the The new "Sorry orange" coalition
MessageAlright then.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes

    Total Seats: 0

    no
         

    Total Seats: 355

    abstain
      

    Total Seats: 145


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