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Bill: IPS - Foreign Investors Act 2189
Details
Submitted by[?]: Imperial Party of Selucian
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2190
Description[?]:
| pls wait |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change
The government's policy regarding foreign investments.
Old value:: Foreign investors may freely invest in national companies.
Current: Foreign investors may invest in national companies, but may not get a majority share.
Proposed: Foreign investors may invest in national companies, but may not get a majority share.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:49:24, February 22, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Foreign Investors Act 2189 |
| Message | No WAY man, the Selucian economy would crash if you pass this law! This is communist! This is totalitarian! This brings us to the same principals as the Deltarians! |
| Date | 09:06:32, February 23, 2006 CET | From | Shalom Lechem v'Eretz Party | To | Debating the IPS - Foreign Investors Act 2189 |
| Message | I agree, keep Selucian assets in Selucian hands. |
| Date | 10:57:17, February 23, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Foreign Investors Act 2189 |
| Message | Boy, in this debate there is one (pretty much worthless) sentence saying we should throw all foreign investors out (in real life, there was a regime that decided a holocaust in 50 minutes, I guess you both like that too then) The real arguments: -By passing this, most companies will be forbidden -By passing this, we will looze an amazing amount of jobs -By passing this, the Selucian Economy crashes -By passing this, you destroy over 50 years of blood sweat and tears attracting investors (I believe in real life, there is one regime having an anti-foreign-investments policy, it's would be one of the poorest nation on earth if they weren't sitting on a huge oil reserve), and the murder of some (Danish) people is promoted there. Well, if you compare that "cost" to the cost of its nuclear bomb project, I guess the fee for murdering a cartoonist is an acceptable cost) |
| Date | 11:11:03, February 23, 2006 CET | From | Shalom Lechem v'Eretz Party | To | Debating the IPS - Foreign Investors Act 2189 |
| Message | Wow. Way to blow things out of proportion. Limiting foreign investors control over Selucian companies = Throw all foreign investors out And wanting to retain Selucian control of Selucian corporate assets makes SLE and IPS into Muslim Hitler. Wow. Just, wow. |
| Date | 11:13:32, February 23, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Foreign Investors Act 2189 |
| Message | SLE, maybe you could help the debate by replying at the ARGUMENTS. You see, I do think you have none, except the same arguments those "people" had. You didn't disproove my statement yet. |
| Date | 19:46:37, February 23, 2006 CET | From | Imperial Party of Selucian | To | Debating the IPS - Foreign Investors Act 2189 |
| Message | There is no company which would have to close the books. Sometimes members of the VBS need an education about law procedre. The law will affect the companies from the time it is valid. Companies with foreign investors >50% are not affected as nobody wrote this somewhere. This new law just restrict future foreign investment up to 49.99% percent. This does not include participation without voting rights. They may freely invest more money but will only gain 49.99% Lots of companies will do this as they may count this as spending of their income and therefore needn't to pay taxation. It is a pretty good way to give those companies the possiblity to reduce their taxation and to allow Selucian companies to keep their and our technology in our nation. |
| Date | 21:52:52, February 23, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Foreign Investors Act 2189 |
| Message | 1) Not necessairy, in my real life nation (pretty close to you), there was proposed a new tax on withdrawing money from the stock (don't know if this is the correct english word). This was proposed in september, and was used for everything that was taxed since january that year. Once again, you should CHECK something before you write it 2)Proposed: Foreign investors may invest in national companies, but may not get a majority share. It is the entire bill! 3) - indeed - How do you know? I didn't see an ammendement, and in the bill itself is pretty clear there are NO exceptions. Once again a proof of your incompetence - 4) Didn't you forget one thing? By not making PROFITS they wouldn't pay taxes on that at all. Bullshit argument (once again) 5) How do you know that? If it's forbidden to buy a company (like multinationals do currently), the multinational will simply buy the pattent. |
| Date | 13:06:11, February 24, 2006 CET | From | Imperial Party of Selucian | To | Debating the IPS - Foreign Investors Act 2189 |
| Message | The VBS members are really uneducated. A new law will always effect things only from the time it is valid. If a law shall effect things before this date there has to be an ammendement. You needn't this to clarify you don't mean the time before the date. |
| Date | 16:25:28, February 24, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Foreign Investors Act 2189 |
| Message | 1) This debate doesn't matter anymore, because the GMP was smart enough to vote no, just as the SNP and the BWA 2) Well, what if a company has over 50% foreign investments? If they have lets say 60% foreign investments, and a foreign company is wanting to raise its share to 65%, is it legal? y/n? In other words, you create a law vacuum for those companies |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 170 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 320 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 109 |
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