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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of November 4280
Details
Submitted by[?]: Baltusian International Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4281
Description[?]:
| Members of Congress, I present to you my cabinet proposal for the next term. Consisting of a wide range of parties, from centre-left to centre-right, we ensure the extremities of the far-left and far-right do not enter opposition. Our programme for government will be focused on reform which we can agree upon and rejecting the radical notions of communism and fascism. However, I'd also like to take this opportunity to reject the absolute slander that has been uttered to the press by the leader of the PLCA. Congresswomen Audrey-Sophie Green committed slander, lying about our negotiations. She noted: "they suddenly ask us to stop being communist and to drop our nationalisation agenda as well as democratisation of the businesses, without giving us anything in return, and they even criticized us our names, saying communists are terrible killers and dictators. It was insulting. they directly said to us that they can't ally themselves with communist, because all communist are killers and only want to instaure a dictatorship, its misinformation and prejudice" This notion is absolutely falsified and I demand an apology from the PLCA Leader immediately regarding this, otherwise, we will be suing for defamation. We discussed abortion, which we agreed we could potentially compromise upon, however, once I had confirmed to them my proposal they responded furiously. I clearly noted to the PLCA that it was one of our fundamental principals and a thick, red line that we will not work with communists, particularly noting the history of the civil war and what Communists have historically done to our party and our nation. I confirmed that if they were to reform and drop the communist part of their ideology, we consider them, however, this was again met with outright fury. I asked if they'd reform their nationalisation agenda in government, they rejected and said that they wanted DWC's to run all businesses and that was their number one priority. Thus, we confirmed that the partnership was clearly not going to work. We said nothing about "communists being terrible killers and dictators" nor did we say we wouldn't coalition with them because " all communist are killers and only want to instaure a dictatorship, its misinformation and prejudice" It's regrettable that these falsified notions are published and demand an apology otherwise court will ensue. President Samantha Webster Leader of Forward! President of Baltusia |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the The Syndicate chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Baltusian International Democratic Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Materialist Circuit
Article 4
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Materialist Circuit
Article 5
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Constitutionalist Alliance
Article 6
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Baltusian International Democratic Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Materialist Circuit
Article 8
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Constitutionalist Alliance
Article 9
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia
Article 10
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia
Article 11
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia
Article 12
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia
Article 13
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Liberal, Socialist Party of Baltusia
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:22:20, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | Members of Congress, So the left gets Science and Technology, Food and Agriculture, Environment and Tourism, Trade and Industry, and Education and Culture, while the right gets Foreign Affairs, Internal Affairs, Finance, Defence, Justice, Infrastructure and Transport, and Health and Social Services! Seems fair given that the public voted for a majority left-wing congress! Richard Leonardo Congressional Leader of the Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia Secretary of State for Finance |
| Date | 23:28:11, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | The question here should if the far-right is present in the political field of Baltusian politicians, like Foward!, where is the Far-right ? First, I remark. that the president is clearly insultintg me by saying I am woman, I am a man. Second, the libels laws of Baltusia does not allow you to persue me. As The nation has no laws regarding libel and The nation has no laws regarding slander,you do not have the right sue me. . Therefor, I asked the president to study back the laws of the country, before trying to launch pointless procedures, We are not even furious, we simply wondered why the hell you present yourselves before us, if you have no intentions to negociate. And finally, you know the PLCA stand agaisnt abortion, so unless Foward! stand in favor of abortion, in favor of the current laws, they are sharing the exact same belief of us on the US, hoverer, we ask them to not present any legislation of the subject as they cannot work with terrible communists. |
| Date | 23:28:50, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | Audrey-Sophie green, Co-leader of the PLCA |
| Date | 23:31:11, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | Never listen to the disgusting lies of a party which have proven links with terrorist groups. |
| Date | 23:33:24, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | Additionally, the notion that there isn't a law regarding libel, doesn't mean I can't still sue you for Abuse of Power in a Public Office. |
| Date | 23:38:12, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | I am not in public office, as the co-leader is not an elected official |
| Date | 23:39:41, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Secularist, Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | OOC: You are a member of congress |
| Date | 23:40:58, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | OOC: Exactly |
| Date | 23:44:56, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | Mrs, We have no links with terrorist groups, this is a clearly a slanders, and sadly, we can't sue Foward! for this remark. It is true the PLCA is formed around the principle of vigilantism, but to slanders this as terrorism is misinformations. Second, I remark that I am not a representatives of the people, I am not a mp, I am the representatives of the PLCA, I represent all members of the PLCA who have harsher words then I have for your party. third, I still have to ask which party in Baltusia is a Far-right wing party ??? Fourth, we have nothing to do with the actions you associate with communism, we never participate in any civil war, our party mysteriously disappeared 100 years ago and we are still trying to find the reasons. Fifth, we still demand you drop this political non-sens and start to think about the interest of the nation as a whole. Don't associate us with the actions of other parties or with other communists ideologies, we are unique. Finally, I am a man Audrey-Sophie Green, Co-leader of the PLCA |
| Date | 23:46:02, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | OOC : I said my leaders did not present themselves in the elections. Audrey-Sophie Green cannot be a member of the congress. |
| Date | 23:52:47, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | So do the PLCA therefore confirm that any suspicions that were present 100 years ago about their relations with the Vampire Terror Group should now be put to rest? |
| Date | 23:59:29, October 01, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | OOC : just a second, I have parliamentary immunity, yeah, I have it. so, I don't need to play this card... sorry of course he's a congress member, but he has immunity, you have to propose a legislation that would overturn it. IC : Right now, The vampires are not terrorists. The only notable action they took, is to rob a blood rank that belong to an hospital performing abortions, so if you see gross terrorists in all, then all killers are terrorists. We do not have records have theses relations, as we do not have access to the archives of the old PLCA formation. What the PLCA have been in the past do not interest us, the present should interest us. simulary what Foward was in the past do not interest us. Aloy Green, |
| Date | 00:07:47, October 02, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | Your lack of concern about the Vampires taking blood from a hospital is actually rather concerning. So, I'll ask you again. Do the current PLCA today have any relations with the Vampires? |
| Date | 00:38:14, October 02, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 4280 |
| Message | your allegation are unfounded, our party have no relations with the vampires, there will be able away suspicions from the right about, because the right-wing parties do not support vigilantism, but we do understand and we support it. Our parties, at the left-wing, have some suspicions about illegal actions, that would have taken by Foward!, but I won,t say anymore, as they are simple allegations and they are not founded. We hope Foward can adopt the same attitude as us and bring themselves back at the negociation table. Baltusia want us to solve our differences. Baltusia does not want us to fight like this. Aloy Green. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 194 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 321 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 85 |
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