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Bill: New Government Formation (May 4288)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alternative für Dorvik
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 4289
Description[?]:
| This government proposal gives change a chance. It will be a government of all talents: the NPBs experience, the RPs thinking, the AfDs straight talking policies and the Progress Union's progressive attitude. It will bring opportunity and prosperity to the nation once again. Dorvik has voted for change, and will get change under this proposed government. Alice Schönfeld MSC Leader of the AfD in the State Council |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Grüne Demokratische Partei
Article 2
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Grüne Demokratische Partei
Article 3
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Alternative für Dorvik
Article 4
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Grüne Demokratische Partei
Article 5
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Dorvische Nationale Partei
Article 6
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Fortschrittsvereinigung
Article 7
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Dorvische Nationale Partei
Article 8
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Alternative für Dorvik
Article 9
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Grüne Demokratische Partei
Article 10
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Dorvische Nationale Partei
Article 11
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Grüne Demokratische Partei
Article 12
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Fortschrittsvereinigung
Article 13
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Grüne Demokratische Partei
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:32:51, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | Ms Schönfeld, We welcome this cabinet and the mandate it has. While we may not carry the presidency among our numbers, this government must be one that works for Dorvik and I know all four parties are of that nature. It is a shame some have abandoned the politics of sense and calm, and have betrayed their values not out of Dorvik's need but childish spite. Cindy Kirchen Co-Leader of the NPB |
| Date | 21:43:59, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Alternative für Dorvik | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | We welcome the NPBs confidence in our government proposal. Alice Schönfeld MSC Leader of the AfD in the State Council |
| Date | 21:46:53, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | Mr.Speaker, We totally disagree, the corruption under previous NPB administrations has been rampant and since one of its core members is a cult follower of a cult willing to overthrow our democratic system we are are against this. The nation needs a new air through it without pragmatic backstabbing, backroom politics. Eckhard Schulhof, President of the DRF |
| Date | 21:55:14, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | Mr Schulhof, While I usually try to pretend I don't find your slow descent into madness to be deeply amusing, I find your accusation of my religion being a 'cult' to be a clear example of why you are a hypocrite. "I will always stay respectful" I remember you saying. I suppose just not when you're a member of the wrong minority group. If you don't want us in government, please inform the 13.3 million people who voted for us and give them a good reason to vote otherwise. You keep on saying 'Dorvik needs a new air', but it appear that the people disagree. Cindy Kirchen Co-Leader of the NPB |
| Date | 22:08:44, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The so called "religion" of miss Kirchen is indeed a cult. In a previous administration under republican leadership an investigation was launched against this "religion" of miss Kirchen for reports of practices that do not belong in Dorvik. Mr. Speaker, there have even been reports in the media of this "religion" willing to overthrow our democratic institutions. We are not comfortable with a religious cult like the one of miss Kirchen being in such a position of power Mr. Speaker so we announce our utmost concern. And to comment on miss Kirchen her comments about our stement of respect. You have respect when you talk through the speaker and not directly to the person in question. You have respect when you actually respect the stance's of others instead of taking them down and you have respect when you do not backstab allies Mr.Speaker. Eckhard Schulhof, President of the DRF |
| Date | 22:19:35, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | Mr Schulhof, I think that your fantasies about controlling this Council's procedures count for nothing. My religion is not a cult, and you have done nothing for your own good by suggesting so. You're just another Northerner talking down to the South. When have we ever tried to take down other people's stances? We just win against you all of the time. Sorry, it's the people who are making you powerless. And we don't back-stab allies, Ecky. Cindy Kirchen Co-Leader of the NPB |
| Date | 22:59:37, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Nationale Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | We think it hardly fair the NPB recieved Foreign Affairs and wish to keep it now. We would like to switch Infrastructure and Transport for Foreign Affairs. Aside from that, we support the coalition. Adler Drumpf Acting State Chancellor RP Co-Leader |
| Date | 23:00:35, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Nationale Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | In response to the DRF, we would ask they refrain from believing rumours in the fake news. We are not at liberty to discuss any acts of the secret service or its investigations, Schulhof knows this. Adler Drumpf Acting State Chancellor RP Co-Leader |
| Date | 23:02:22, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | Mr Drumpf, You have lost all respect from me and my party. We refuse to enter coalition with you. How dare you suggest a highly qualified woman and three-time Foreign Affairs Minister is incapable of doing her job. This is the end of any partnership our parties can have for the immediate future. Cindy Kirchen Co-Leader of the NPB |
| Date | 23:09:00, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Nationale Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | I think you have misunderstood, Frau Kirchen. We intended not to argue that your Minister is incapable, merely that we feel that we should receive this position, as you previously did so when we held the Chancellorship. The Minister could, perhaps, move to another post? We think that if we are to be valued members within a coalition we deserve the same respect you were afforded by us, and the same influence. We also feel a great deal could be achieved if we were to hold the position, bringing new ideas to the Ministry. We ask you rethink your declaration. Wolfhard Lorenz Minister for Defence RP Co-Leader Staring intently. |
| Date | 23:13:44, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | Mr Lorenz, This is the last time I will be talking to your party or any representative from it: so I will keep it brief. Diana Sprecher is the world's most qualified Foreign Affairs Minister with connections across the world and a reputation internationally. She is either Foreign Minister or we walk. There is nothing more I have to say to you. Cindy Kirchen Co-Leader of the NPB |
| Date | 23:18:08, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Nationale Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | Where's her treaties then? Lazy pillock! RP Council Member, before being silenced. Frau Kirchen, Again, we intended no offence to be made. Clearly we should have discussed this before the election in more depth. I also apologise for the words of this Council member. *Glares at him.* We would be willing to accept this coalition in its current form. This will provide a more stable government while we discuss our ideas on the matter privately. Again, Frau Sprecher, we intend no offence. Wolfhard Lorenz Defence Minister Co-Leader of the RP |
| Date | 23:19:10, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Nationale Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | OOC: probs should have made clear, that's two people speaking, |
| Date | 23:21:00, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | Mr Lorenz, This cabinet is off the table. Cindy Kirchen Co-Leader of the NPB |
| Date | 23:27:52, October 16, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Nationale Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | This is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Frankly, Frau Kirchen, I thought you were more respectable than this. You not only completely misinterpreted my original statement, you totally refuse to listen to reason. I suppose then there is nothing I can do. The NPB has fallen from grace, it has become nothing but a worthless, cult-following nut bag of lunatics. Enjoy it while it lasts. The people will know. Adler Drumpf Acting State Chancellor RP Co-Leader |
| Date | 21:39:14, October 17, 2017 CET | From | Grüne Demokratische Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | After a lot of internal discussion, we are happy to follow through with this cabinet. We have discussed terms. Cindy Kirchen Co-Leader of the NPB |
| Date | 21:42:59, October 17, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Nationale Partei | To | Debating the New Government Formation (May 4288) |
| Message | We will vote Yes only pending further discussion and on the condition that Early Elections be called should we fail to reach a further deal. Wolfhard Lorenz Minister for Defence RP Co-Leader |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 269 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 330 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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