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Bill: Military Entrance bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Bachelor Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2193
Description[?]:
| To place the decision for whom the military accepts into the hands of the military itself. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Discrimination in the military on grounds of race/religion.
Old value:: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Current: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Proposed: The government does not interfere with the military over who can serve in it.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:55:22, February 27, 2006 CET | From |  Bachelor Party | To | Debating the Military Entrance bill |
| Message | The pupose of the military is to protect us from harm, not to be a social test tube. It has very serious operational duties to perform, and its mission is of critical importance. If the military should, for any reason at all, decide that any individual is not desireable, then theirs should be the ultimate decision. The military already discriminates on the basis of age and physical fitness, and we believe their autonomy to choose whom is desireable should be absolute. |
| Date | 17:07:19, February 27, 2006 CET | From | Jacobin Society | To | Debating the Military Entrance bill |
| Message | The military is also supposed to be under civilian control which means they make their decisions with the consent of civil authority. Besides, what good reasons are there for ejecting someone from the military on religious or racial grounds? |
| Date | 17:32:08, February 27, 2006 CET | From | Bachelor Party | To | Debating the Military Entrance bill |
| Message | The military is under civilian control insofar as its missions and objectives are limited to those given it by the Directorate and Chief Executive. But we believe it is very poor policy to give the military a task, then also dictate exactly how that task is to be carried out operationally. When you give someone a job to do, the best policy is to stand back and let him do it without interference or micromanagement. We believe that a persons serves in the country's military at the pleasure of the military, and that military service is a privilege, not a basic right. We cannot forsee a situation in which individuals will be rejected purely on the basis of race, nor of religious background, and have reason to doubt that it will actually happen. Rather what we oppose is the notion of compelling the military to accept for induction any specific individuals that it may deem unfit for any reason. We do not wish to see the military's freedom to choose personnel and use them in any way it deems appropriate abridged in any way. |
| Date | 00:45:46, February 28, 2006 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the Military Entrance bill |
| Message | Gets rid of a law? All for it. |
| Date | 00:57:41, February 28, 2006 CET | From | Jacobin Society | To | Debating the Military Entrance bill |
| Message | As at any job, someone serves at the pleasure of their employer, but how would religion or race affect someone's job? Besides, bigots and racists are around, maybe not in great numbers in this modern age, but they are still present. It is for this reason that this law is present. The Society, as well, does not want to see the military completed gutted of freedom to choose personnel, but guidelines must be set in respect to forbidding discrimination. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 101 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 177 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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