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Bill: 4314 GR Manifesto
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nieliid Vuoigatvuohtabellodat
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4315
Description[?]:
| Capitalism has shown itself incapable of harmonising with the environment. (OOC: This is primarily to up my visibility.) |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The banking system.
Old value:: The government operates a central bank and all other banks are private.
Current: The government operates a central bank and all other banks are private.
Proposed: The government operates large, national banks, but small community based private banks are allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's position towards the stock exchange(s).
Old value:: Stock exchanges are allowed and are unregulated.
Current: Stock exchanges are allowed and are unregulated.
Proposed: Stock exchanges are banned.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Current: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Proposed: The government requires all businesses to be run by Democratic Workers' Councils.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Current: Certain industries are owned by the state, all others are under private ownership.
Proposed: The state owns the commanding heights of the economy and all major industries, but private ownership is allowed in the minor industries.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning farm size.
Old value:: Farm size is not regulated.
Current: Farm size is not regulated.
Proposed: Farms that grow too large are broken up and the land redistributed.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: The government subsidises the operations of low-income farming families.
Current: Agricultural crops which are considered beneficial to the enviroment or to the continued ecological safety of the state are subsidized.
Proposed: Agricultural crops which are considered beneficial to the enviroment or to the continued ecological safety of the state are subsidized.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Government-sponsored recycling programs.
Old value:: The government funds recycling facilities but enforces mandatory recycling for industry only.
Current: The government funds recycling facilities and enforces mandatory recycling for residents, commercial enterprise, and industry.
Proposed: The government funds recycling facilities and enforces mandatory recycling for residents, commercial enterprise, and industry.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Eminent Domain.
Old value:: The government may not seize private property.
Current: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Proposed: The government may seize private property for any reason.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The government policy regarding housing.
Old value:: Housing policy is to be determined by local governments.
Current: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Proposed: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:06:27, December 07, 2017 CET | From |  Kjerne | To | Debating the 4314 GR Manifesto |
| Message | Herr Huspresident, I thank this representative of a minor party for putting us all here in the Storting to a test to clarify our positions and how we understand the world and its problems. The Green perspective has a strong foundation in Kazulia. Our country has strong ecologist laws in place for decades, and they have kept developing during these years we have taken part in government, and there has hardly been opposition to ecology-friendly laws in Kazulia. The speaker claims to represent the green perspective, and this is also a central Kjerne claim. Yet, we arrive at very opposite conclusions when it comes to economic policy. This bill is very comprehensive. It takes its support from the claim that "capitalism has shown itself incapable of harmonising with the environment." We could fully agree depending on what we mean by "capitalism". What Kjerne is for is market economy. It will include that private people have the right to earn and save and build up a capital and employ other people. But it should not include that the state by force builds up a capital, and supports chosen persons to build up a capital. Is not socialism the model where the state by force cancels competition to protect select interests? It includes even taking money from people by forced taxation, and giving it to the people that the state has decided shall be the capitalists holding a monopoly. I hope to make it understood that market economy, and competition is the best protection against capitalism in the bad sense when monopolies are created and protected by the state. And pure hundred percent socialism has also shown itself empirically to be even more incapable of harmonising itself with the environment. Of the articles we would support nr 3. Out of the others some we are definitely against, and some could be discussed and accepted in the right context. I shall not discuss it further now. -Atlas Skuldristen, Leader of Kjerne |
| Date | 23:51:12, December 07, 2017 CET | From | Mitten Partiet | To | Debating the 4314 GR Manifesto |
| Message | Herr Talman :We are seriously worried about article 1,2,4,5,8,9 We will vote against any bill containing any of those bills with the now proposed changes . |
| Date | 23:54:55, December 08, 2017 CET | From | Kjerne | To | Debating the 4314 GR Manifesto |
| Message | Herr Huspresident, I don't know if the articles have been shuffled. We are of course against article 3 about democratic workers councils. We have repealed the unfair privileges of such "councils" during our governance. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 125 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 68 |
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