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Bill: Raise Mandatory Education Age
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic-Republican Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2194
Description[?]:
| Students must be in study until the age of seventeen. However, an apprenticeship may be applied for at the age of 14, in which the state will allow a student to forego a standard education in favor of a focussed apprenticeship on a single area. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 16
Current: 18
Proposed: 17
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:45:00, March 01, 2006 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Raise Mandatory Education Age |
| Message | Why? Children receive education until 16 and then the choice is up to them. Do they continue education voluntarily, or do they get a job? Making this compulsory will ruin the education of those who want to be there, because those that don't will riot in classes. It would also be better if those that want to get a job do. This will merely see an increase in truancy, an increase in discipline problems, and falling education standards. |
| Date | 14:36:47, March 01, 2006 CET | From | Rainbow Party | To | Debating the Raise Mandatory Education Age |
| Message | Agreed. And as one who doesn't like the pressures for conformity institutions of education tends to put on their students, I'm opposed. |
| Date | 17:56:52, March 01, 2006 CET | From | Peoples Revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Raise Mandatory Education Age |
| Message | opposed |
| Date | 21:15:28, March 01, 2006 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Raise Mandatory Education Age |
| Message | Forcing someone into education beyond 16 will not work (as they will just play truant), prevent them taking up apprenticeships and gaining a skill that will help them and the nation, and in addition is tantamount to slavery. |
| Date | 22:47:06, March 01, 2006 CET | From | Democratic-Republican Party | To | Debating the Raise Mandatory Education Age |
| Message | Please prove your truancy statistics as we have not seen any such thing Also, an apprenticeship, as you mentioned, has been added as a possibility for continuing education after the age of 15. |
| Date | 22:50:47, March 01, 2006 CET | From | Democratic-Republican Party | To | Debating the Raise Mandatory Education Age |
| Message | 13* |
| Date | 23:05:03, March 01, 2006 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Raise Mandatory Education Age |
| Message | You well know that without using RL references stats are not available! However at your insistence these will give an indication of the trends, of course the problem is that nowhere in the 'real world' are incredibly authoritarian enough to enslave teenagers for that long http://parentingteens.about.com/cs/troubledteens/a/truancy_2.htm http://www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/Truancyupdate.html#curb http://www.literacytrust.org.uk/Database/Truancyupdate.html#blights http://www.esrc.ac.uk/ESRCInfoCentre/about/CI/CP/Our_Society_Today/News_Articles_2005/truancy.aspx?ComponentId=12991&SourcePageId=11456 |
| Date | 01:43:59, March 02, 2006 CET | From | Democratic-Republican Party | To | Debating the Raise Mandatory Education Age |
| Message | /OOC: You know what I mean. You can't show me proof in-game that such occurs. Therefore, I cannot accept it. Also considering that at my own school the truancy rate is at less then 1/4 of one percent./ We still wonder if this new bill is acceptable to the Libertarians, as they have not said if they will allow it. |
| Date | 08:34:08, March 02, 2006 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Raise Mandatory Education Age |
| Message | We have no statistics to prove it in Hutori because we have not enslaved children for that long. We must speculate - it is all part of politics, my learned friend. |
| Date | 20:56:38, March 02, 2006 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Raise Mandatory Education Age |
| Message | We will accept this slavery of children when the honey monster eats the cheesy moon! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 68 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 220 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 42 |
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