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Bill: Power to the People

Details

Submitted by[?]: Protectorate Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 2195

Description[?]:

Those closly tied to an issue should be the ones who are responsible to set their guidelines and policies. The government can provide assistance but should not legislate practices.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:43:31, March 02, 2006 CET
FromMalivianese Militarist Party
ToDebating the Power to the People
MessageWe disagree with all proposals.

1. What is the point of rules if they are not enforced?
2. Why must we favor one group as opposed to another?
3. Why are democratic workers' councils able to get tax exemptions and subsidies when this may not be the best for the company?

Date23:16:07, March 02, 2006 CET
FromSocial Democrat League
ToDebating the Power to the People
MessageWe second the MMP.

Date23:41:54, March 02, 2006 CET
From Protectorate Party
ToDebating the Power to the People
Message1) The government provides guidelines. the actual creation and enforcement are left to the workers/unions and the company to work out. When the government is in charge of the creation and enforcement, the result are rules which are not followed in practice, and are never enforced except during the annual inspection.

2) we feel that companies should be free to hire as they wish, which is not currently the case. In addition we feel that there are segments of the population which need to get their foot in the door whether it is women in male dominated professions such as police and fire, men in women dominated, etc. We do not feel that quotas are a solution rather we should weigh these issues into the hiring process.

3) if it is not the best deal for the company then even with the tax excemptions it will not be the path chosen. This is defended by a similar arguement as in #2. We should encourage the exporation and establishment of different methods of control, to encourage diversity in our companies. We agree that this should not be a large tax cut or benifit, but enough for it to gain some attention.

Date04:25:48, March 03, 2006 CET
FromMalivia Democratic Party
ToDebating the Power to the People
MessageDisagree with all proposals.

Date04:26:12, March 03, 2006 CET
FromMalivia Democratic Party
ToDebating the Power to the People
MessageDon't bother debating with me. We don't debate with parties that always leave the largest party out of the cabinet.

Date05:29:33, March 03, 2006 CET
FromMalivianese Militarist Party
ToDebating the Power to the People
Message1) If terms are left to unions and companies, then there is not uniformity. Also, some unions are under company control rather than worker control.
2) Currently, everyone is treated equally. Why mess that up? We know no history of anti-women rights etc.
3) If the company wanted to be run by Democratic Worker's Council then it would do so without incentives etc. For such a laissez-faire stance the Protectorates adopt almost everywhere else, we are surprised with this Article.

Date19:45:43, March 04, 2006 CET
From Protectorate Party
ToDebating the Power to the People
MessageThere is never uniformity. Companies do as they wish until such time as there is an inspection and then they put on a song and dance for the inspectors. By transfering the power to the unions and the workers there will always be a inspection going in.


Date21:00:51, March 04, 2006 CET
FromSocial Democrat League
ToDebating the Power to the People
MessageWe still do not agree with article 2. This will only allow more qualified workers to be pushed to the side for less qualified workers, who just happen to be part of a minority.

Date02:49:14, March 05, 2006 CET
FromMalivianese Militarist Party
ToDebating the Power to the People
MessageThe Protectorates have ignored the fact some unions are controlled by the company...

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 34

no
    

Total Seats: 153

abstain
   

Total Seats: 55


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