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Bill: Constitution Bill 2194D2

Details

Submitted by[?]: Black Magic

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2195

Description[?]:

Suggestion: Though it would be by polite agreement only because the option does not exist, that after the initial cabinet is established there be no further cabinet proposals for the first 12 months of the mandate. The aim is to promote stable government while still allowing for change.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date17:19:52, March 03, 2006 CET
From KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageWe support this. An interesting mediation.

Date17:38:53, March 03, 2006 CET
From KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageWe are also for a small increment of the Riksdag to 151 members, in order to reduce the variance between real % of votes and % on Riksdag. What do you think?

Date17:58:32, March 03, 2006 CET
From Black Magic
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageThat would be approximately one representative for every 424 000 people. Is this enough?

Date18:02:34, March 03, 2006 CET
From Klassiskt Liberala Partiet
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
Message151 is such a stupid number. no real sense to it. I like 99. and i like 36 months. I wont agree to any changes.

Date18:05:02, March 03, 2006 CET
From KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageBetter than now: our 2 parties had the same number of seats, but different % of voters. A larger Riksdag give to parties a more fair weight.

Date18:07:37, March 03, 2006 CET
From KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
Message151 is a stupid number? Why? It has sense like any other number.

1/3 is 51 and 1/2 is 76. Not so difficult to remind, we think.


Date18:49:29, March 03, 2006 CET
From Black Magic
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageWell, let's discuss the number of seats and the length of the term elsewhere. Article 2 removed.

Date18:57:19, March 03, 2006 CET
From KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageYou are right.

Date19:32:21, March 03, 2006 CET
From Konservativ Monarkistpartiet
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageActually, 1/3 would be 50

Date20:50:04, March 03, 2006 CET
From Black Magic
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageOn topic, why should a party with only 5% support be able to propose a cabinet?

Date21:04:30, March 03, 2006 CET
From KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
Message@SV: no, since 1/3 is 50.3333... that is rounded to 51.

Date23:56:20, March 03, 2006 CET
From Radikale Folkeparti
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageHahahahahahahahaha, you don't round 50.3333 up, you would round that DOWN, otherwise two thirds would be 101, and a third would be, according to you 51, so 152 MP's?

Date23:57:21, March 03, 2006 CET
From Radikale Folkeparti
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageDP, because otherwise we have the situation that occured when the Northern Light was HoS, and they couldn't pass a cabinet proposal, the same could happen with just the largest party maintaining the privilidge of cabinet proposal.

Date02:00:23, March 04, 2006 CET
From Konservativ Monarkistpartiet
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
Message66 is two thirds of 99, 66.67 is two thirds of 100, 0.67 is two-thirds of 1, 100-1 is proportional to 66.67-0.67, thus two-thirds of 99 is 66.

Date02:37:09, March 04, 2006 CET
From Klassiskt Liberala Partiet
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageI think you posted that in the wrong discussion.

Date06:08:27, March 04, 2006 CET
From Black Magic
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageWell, it seems like we all need a math review anyway.

Date11:08:21, March 04, 2006 CET
From KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
Message@RP: the game ever round up.

Date11:34:59, March 04, 2006 CET
From Black Magic
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
Message@RF - - - I do not believe the proposal above has been tried, correct me if I'm wrong - it says only the largest parties (plural) could propose a cabinet. I do not know what the game means by that, but evidently more than one party would still be able to propose a cabinet.

Date14:34:10, March 04, 2006 CET
From Klassiskt Liberala Partiet
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageNo, only the largest parties can do it. Usually, it is only one party, unless two or more parties have the same amount of seats.

Date14:44:03, March 04, 2006 CET
From Konservativ Monarkistpartiet
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageYeah, OP, largest party proposing a cabinet surely means the largest party, in the same way the HoS means the party controlling HoS, and all parties means al parties.

Date05:29:20, March 05, 2006 CET
From Black Magic
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageProposed: Only the largest PARTIES can propose a cabinet. KLP you have experience that only the largest is able to do it? That makes the proposal misleading, should mention to management perhaps?

Date12:45:59, March 05, 2006 CET
From Klassiskt Liberala Partiet
ToDebating the Constitution Bill 2194D2
MessageIt is a bit misleading indeed. The plural is used for the case that there are two or more largest parties with the same amount of seats. Usually, there is only one largest party, and only this party can propose cabinets.

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Total Seats: 67

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