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Bill: National aid, reduced - 2194

Details

Submitted by^[?]: KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti

Status^[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2195

Description^[?]:

We think that each able citizen can search a job to substain himself. (Note that elderies are covered by national pension system).

Proposals

Article 1

Proposal^[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.

Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.

Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.

Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	12:16:40, March 04, 2006 CET
From	Black Magic
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	The reason welfare was increased is because the government got out of the housing business and wished to make sure that the poor would have the ability to pay rent such that it would give them some choice - thus ensuring some onus on the landlord to maintain their buildings and neighbourhood to attract tenants. Since unemployment is very low this is not a great number of people in any case.

Date	12:18:28, March 04, 2006 CET
From	KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	Well, we prefer public houses.

Date	12:42:21, March 04, 2006 CET
From	Black Magic
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	Public houses, yes - Public housing, no ;-)

Date	12:52:06, March 04, 2006 CET
From	KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	:)

Date	15:26:01, March 05, 2006 CET
From	Radikale Folkeparti
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	Traitor, betraying the workers, again.

Date	15:48:21, March 05, 2006 CET
From	KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	We are for a mid-aid to kazulians, no so extremist like you: we are for a "corrected" free market.

Date	16:21:46, March 05, 2006 CET
From	Konservativ Monarkistpartiet
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	Your beginning to flip flop SD

Date	16:23:16, March 05, 2006 CET
From	KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	Why? We want a mid-free market, not a total nationalized one. It is on our manifesto.

Date	16:31:07, March 05, 2006 CET
From	Konservativ Monarkistpartiet
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	But you total backing of the KLP?

Date	16:39:06, March 05, 2006 CET
From	KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	What you mean? When we had talk with KLP about free market, we had talken about a theory that, pratically, it is only an utopia: proletarian dictatorship and free market will never exist. This is the reality.

Date	20:54:34, March 05, 2006 CET
From	Klassiskt Liberala Partiet
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	The free market already exists. Somalia is an anarchy without any government. And the people there are far better of than any of their african neighbours.

Date	23:28:55, March 05, 2006 CET
From	KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	beeep!... RL reference! :p

Date	00:33:17, March 06, 2006 CET
From	Klassiskt Liberala Partiet
To	Debating the National aid, reduced - 2194
Message	Since your remark was OOC, you can assume my comment was as well.

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Klassiskt Liberala Partiet (22)
KSP - Kazulia Socialdemokratisk Parti (16)
Konservativ Monarkistpartiet (13)
Statsr�d Parti (12)

Total Seats: 63

Total Seats: 36

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Centrist Movement of Goodness (0)

Total Seats: 0

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