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Bill: DEBATE: A second chamber?
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Submitted by[?]: Militärregierung - Alte Kämpfergruppe
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 4356
Description[?]:
| OOC: There was an abortive attempt at doing this in several places where I was last and I would like to bring it back considering that we have more RP here than they did at the time. I think that a consulting body could be RP'd as the Second Chamber of the parliament (we can call it whatever we want). My thoughts are that this is not to be your typical, boring second chamber, but instead, something really unique. So, several suggestions: 1. Since it would be a "consulting body", why not make it like the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference wherein "The organisation consists of delegates from a range of political parties and organisations, as well as independent members. The proportion of representation of the various parties is determined by established convention, negotiated between the parties." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_People%27s_Political_Consultative_Conference) - this could be local governments choosing who is there, which leaves the door open for independents but it provides some change over time. This is somewhat similar to what you speak of only a bit more "representative" than just 'whoever got the most seats', after all, consultative would see rather apolitical. 2. Or, how about "functional constituencies" as they have Hong Kong & Macao wherein "professional or special interest groups involved in the electoral process. Eligible voters in a functional constituency may include natural persons as well as other designated legal entities such as organisations and corporations." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_constituency_(Hong_Kong) ) ... this could mean that the big corporations are represented there, or whole industries (i.e. Hotels, Insurance, transport, fisheries & agriculture, etc), urban areas and rural areas, charities, professional organizations (i.e. American Medical Association, National Association of Realtors, National Bar Association (lawyers, not saloons)), unions, Democratic Workers Councils & cooperatives, higher education, university students, ethnic groups, etc. 3. Or, a consultative council that is similar to those seen in the Middle East. Wherein "members appear to be chosen from different provinces, representing three significant groups: (A)religious establishment, (B)bureaucracy and the (C)business groups. They seem to be followers of both conservative and liberal ideologies, and are usually highly educated and experienced people who are regarded as experts in their fields. Mostly academics, retired senior officers, ex-civil servants and businessmen have been chosen as the members of the council." 4. Another alternative way of determining Functional Constituency used in Ireland for their Senate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocational_Panel 5. What about making it a group that meets every 4 or 5 years or so, like the National People's Congress in PRChina. It could be voted through an electoral college system, or a tiered electoral system (i.e. a multi-party Soviet-style), or appointed by state or county legislatures, etc. It's job could be to give a 'grade' to the current government or federal legislature and propose subjects that need to be addressed and so forth. Does any of this sound interesting? For now I'll just leave it here and wait for your response. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:57:37, February 23, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the DEBATE: A second chamber? |
| Message | my party accepts proposals 1,2,5. |
| Date | 01:43:29, February 24, 2018 CET | From | Militärregierung - Alte Kämpfergruppe | To | Debating the DEBATE: A second chamber? |
| Message | OOC: They're not proposals, they're suggestions. Which do you prefer the most? |
| Date | 15:16:48, February 24, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the DEBATE: A second chamber? |
| Message | It's hard to say, I think that 1,2,5 are good suggestions. I do not understand the third suggestion, maybe you would say from what country and body that I would be able to speak. |
| Date | 15:49:10, March 01, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the DEBATE: A second chamber? |
| Message | this is a debate!,it is not a proposal! please return to the debate phase. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 192 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 313 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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