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Bill: Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Sunrise Party 해돋이당
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 4394
Description[?]:
| Dear Citizens of the Empire, To further reinforce the political culture of the empire, we believe that it is time to unveil an approved words list to help steer the empire into a proper course of direction. "A superior man, in regard to what he does not know, shows a cautious reserve. If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things. If language be not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot be carried on to success. When affairs cannot be carried on to success, proprieties and music do not flourish. When proprieties and music do not flourish, punishments will not be properly awarded. When punishments are not properly awarded, the people do not know how to move hand or foot. Therefore a superior man considers it necessary that the names he uses may be spoken appropriately, and also that what he speaks may be carried out appropriately. What the superior man requires is just that in his words there may be nothing incorrect."-Ji Enzi, Yingdalan Political theorist. Here are the recommendations: Replace all First person references like We or my with words like One or Person and third person references(references to Our nation shall be replaced with the nation or Dankukin Empire). Words like Individual shall be de-emphasized in official Legislation as it's not in accordance with the culture of the Empire. Words like People, all, access, fairness, justice, equality, community shall be de-emphasized and replaced with freedom, property, liberty(Jayuga), persons, discretion, reason, Others, they, them. Signed Grammar Police of Dankuk Coordinated by Alice Sung |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:41:33, March 01, 2018 CET | From | Sunrise Party 해돋이당 | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Dear Senators, Please note that this will not be an immediate change, simply a change in official political language. A simple change of one word every day should be sufficient. Words like Wish, Win, Desire, Triumph, Will, Determine,Will also be helpful in building up National Spirit. Signed Alice Sung |
| Date | 18:15:40, March 01, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party (보수당) | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We are baffled by this bill We should be proud of our nation. By speaking third person it makes it sound like visitors. It des not give a homely feel and a sense of pride but feel more like an outcast First person words and words like we make the country feel united and motivate people as it shows we are all in it together rather than being spectators We will be voting against this bill Elizabeth Kong Prime Minister President of Dankuk |
| Date | 18:16:32, March 01, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party (보수당) | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | OOC: President part was not meant to be there. It was going to be written by the president however Mrs Kong seemed more suitable |
| Date | 23:33:52, March 01, 2018 CET | From | Sunrise Party 해돋이당 | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Honorable Prime Minister, ICP must disagree as first person indicators enable collective narcissism and words such as "we" don't guard against such forming. Collective narcissism has been the cause of much strife throughout the nation's history so it must be de-emphasized in the political rhetoric of the Union. If one wishes to make the nation feel more unified -simply inserting the Union is much more straightforward than "we". Signed Alice Sung |
| Date | 10:02:19, March 02, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party (보수당) | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Mr speaker, We have to disagree. Third person does not sound homely or like we even live here. It sounds like a commentary on a country we have just heard about We will vote against this Elizabeth Kong Prime Minister |
| Date | 10:43:08, March 02, 2018 CET | From | Sunrise Party 해돋이당 | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Honorable Prime Minister, Exactly it allows some rational distance and can enable better decision-making in government and will help curtail the rampant emotionalism often seen in the Senate. People who invest too much of their identity in a decision tend to be less rational. Besides, why would one have to feel home-ly for persons already living here? They have nothing to prove so this is irrelevant. The collective narcissism is the bigger problem and needs to be curtailed by use of proper language. The ICP is all for nationalism and home feel-but there needs to be other priorities and certain limitations on narcissism-especially of the collective variety. Signed Alice Sung |
| Date | 11:03:47, March 02, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party (보수당) | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, People should feel welcome in their country. Third person destroys this. The only benefit is when talking to/for foreign powers. It has no benefit internally or for our people Elizabeth Kong Prime Minister |
| Date | 11:35:13, March 02, 2018 CET | From | Sunrise Party 해돋이당 | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Honorable Prime Minister, First off my name is Alice so it's Miss speaker. "The only benefit is when talking to/for foreign powers. It has no benefit internally or for our people"-This comment is actually hilarious considering it's your party that always whines about "the foreigners hate us-we need to be less hostile to foreigners etc. etc.". As for welcoming people-which people? Dankuk as more than one ethnicity within it-and both cultures view their particular "we's" completely differently if not outright hostility. Third person allows such people to actually think about things from a distant and neutral point of view rather than lettigg their particular identities passions overwhelm good reason. Third Person insures that a unique political culture develops within Dankuk. We do not advocate complete abolishment of "we" language-but it must be de-emphasized in official rhetoric to better secure the Freedom of the Empire. The Union demands it! This sounds like you oppose this otherwise harmless bill just because your party supports collective narcissism. ICP will be sure to publish this on Imperial News. Either way-No matter The Empire will move forward with or without you in this matter. Real Progress will triumph and bury the nonsense of identity! Signed Alice Sung |
| Date | 11:38:09, March 02, 2018 CET | From | Sunrise Party 해돋이당 | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Additional Comment: There is no harm in experimenting with new politics every now and then(within reason and prudence) and this Rhetorical Toolkit will better enable the Empire to expand it's horizons and become a Global Superpower! Dankuk Manse! |
| Date | 11:49:04, March 02, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party (보수당) | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Miss Speaker, We apologise firstly The union will not move on without us if we are the ones getting more support than you. People don't like your far-right ways and want a change for the better We support deals with foreign powers with the sense of pride with the use of we Its funny that you think the world evolves around your party because frankly everyone knows what you can do and everyone want to prevent your extremist views. We support both cultures and 'we' can help unify both cultures. The country will move on modernising in a friendly way rather than an arrogant way Elizabeth Kong Prime Minister |
| Date | 12:09:14, March 02, 2018 CET | From | Sunrise Party 해돋이당 | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Honorable Prime Minister, This isn't far right rhetoric here. It is libertarian rhetoric if anything. Your party is far left collective narcissists constantly trying to impose their universalism to gratify the narcissism it upholds. Dankuk has no tolerance for it-The current popularity of your party is only temporary and you know that(ICP dominated the elections for well over 25 years once and will do so again). It is time for real Progress to occur within the Empire and Identity. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if your party does election rigging to exclude real conseravtives from obtaining office. Again only two countries are hostile to Dankuk-the rest are ambivalent-Bianjie is friendly and Empress Dowager is there discovering the secrets of Reincarnation. "We"ism will not unify the Empire...Jayuga and Will shall unite the Empire! ICP used to be a "We-centric party" but we have discovered the teachings of the Daenists and have decided to work to eliminating Selfish Desire(tanha) and move forward with action! "We support both cultures and 'we' can help unify both cultures. The country will move on modernising in a friendly way rather than an arrogant way"-This is a flat out lie-your party selfishly dumps it's allies and then justifies it with "majoritarianism". Tyranny of Majority we say. The Empire has done more modernizing under us than your party ever accomplished in the 43rd century. Your party is the one that supports stagnation. As for unity of two inherently hostile cultures(Kyo culture prizes family duty) Western culture promotes selfishness. The only hope for any kind of harmony is through de-emphasizing the self. Frankly your far left views stink of the Juche Regime in the 4270's. and ICP will oppose the Extremist left to the death if necessary. Your party is just shy of pure evil-it is selfish, prideful, ambitious, and obsessed with maintaining it's own good name, Only trait your party doesn't have is sadism...yet...but the recent anti-love legislation shows that is changing soon. Alice Sung |
| Date | 12:17:38, March 02, 2018 CET | From | Conservative Party (보수당) | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Dear Speaker, Our party is centre-right. Many of our cabinet members come under the centre-right faction with Miss Greening as our only centre member We don't believe in restriction of words which is why we don't accept this. If third person words want to be used they can but we don't believe this should be forced Elizabeth Kong Prime Minister |
| Date | 13:30:58, March 02, 2018 CET | From | Sunrise Party 해돋이당 | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | Ms. Kong, That is a lie, we have proof of your communist stances in the past right here in 4329 http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=552723 ..... as for restrictions- it isn't being forced-Read the title of the actual document. It is a RECOMMENDATION. Frankly we are losing our patience of having to put up with your universalism and intransigence trying to rebrand itself as the established order of the nation when it is not-it is foreign imposition that frankly doesn't belong here and never did. We tolerate it simply for the sake of peace and in the hope that your party will frankly- grow up. Our party is every bit as old as yours and we have been in enmity from day one. If compromise is impossible even on this simple matter then "the last resort" will be only one left. Your support of freedom is lie as well as you are actively destroying healthy families by outlawing polygamy(or at the very least)-those families have the right to free marriage in anyway they want. Alice Sung |
| Date | 10:29:04, May 16, 2018 CET | From | Sunrise Party 해돋이당 | To | Debating the Rectification of Names/Proper professional Language in Esteemed Institutions Act |
| Message | OOC:Archiving |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 92 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 163 |
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