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Bill: First ceasefire negotiation attempt.

Details

Submitted by[?]: Partido Social Demócrata

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 4382

Description[?]:

The president of the Social Democratic Party (SDP) Felipe Santos and the independent congressman Edmundo Nores, who recently held a meeting with the SDP’s leadership, would like to formally request both of the factions who are fighing in the civil war to put their arms down before this unnecessary loss of life continues. Both of them push for the same actions to be accepted by the combatants, those are:

-Give permision for the other side to recover its dead men from the ongoing battlefields.
-Allow the evacuation of civilians from beseiged cities or towns (For example, Norterra)
-Encourage both sides to trade POW’s for their own captured men.
-Agree to try for a peaceful resolution to the conflict through a negotiation with the PSD as the mediator.

We’d like to know what both sides think of this and urge them to please consider the nations best interests only.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date08:13:33, April 20, 2018 CET
FromPartido Nacionalista y Unionista
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageThe Liga can agree to a ceasefire. Perhaps it should be times for the September elections?

Date09:19:42, April 20, 2018 CET
FromPartido Nacionalista y Unionista
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageI've included this as part of the early election vote http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=565760 as that is the only way to pass this prior to the next scheduled election in september.

Date12:37:30, April 20, 2018 CET
FromPartido Comunista de Egelion
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
Messagefrom the PCE we also showed our support to end the war. but we demand a list of concessions

Date19:14:17, April 21, 2018 CET
FromPartido Comunista de Egelion
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageLet’s vote

Date22:05:45, April 21, 2018 CET
FromPartido Social Demócrata
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageThe voting has started! We’d like to hear from both sides what conditions would be necessary for you to reach an agreement and eventual peace treaty.

Date22:13:28, April 21, 2018 CET
FromPartido Social Demócrata
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageAlso, the PSD would like to push for a multi-party cabinet in which hopefully all the parties of the nation are included in order to create a tolerant and unidealistic government so that with it we could make a peacefull transition from civil war to democracy.

Date01:25:54, April 22, 2018 CET
FromPartido Comunista de Egelion
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageFrom the PCE, we demand that the League accept that the communist movement is alive in the country, and that it stops once to pursue politically. We also demand an amnesty for our prisoners of war and return with their families. On the other hand we commit ourselves to repair the damage of the families of the victims of the attack of about 5 years ago at the headquarters of the league.

Central commite of the PCE

Date17:44:36, April 22, 2018 CET
FromPartido Nacionalista y Unionista
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageWe shall oppose this first attempt as too favourable to the terrorist.

Date20:16:56, April 22, 2018 CET
FromPartido Comunista de Egelion
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageWho is the terrorist? the PCE, which promoted the end of the conflict by peaceful means, or the league that insists on repressing the population. We left it clear: if the right wants more war will have it

Date20:22:41, April 22, 2018 CET
FromPartido Comunista de Egelion
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageA couple of weeks ago the popular army is bombing the cities of Norterra and Mediodmonte. Together with the commissioner of public order, we have ordered that only military buildings and institutions be seized. But we do not rule out that bombs explode in houses of civilians. If this is what the capitalist government wants, no problem.

Date23:55:46, April 22, 2018 CET
FromPartido Social Demócrata
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageWe appriciate the communit’s effort to negotiate for the end of the conflict. We’d like to know if there’s anyway in which the league would be willing to negotiate, and if they have any demands to make in order to make peace, please let us know.

Date13:37:18, April 23, 2018 CET
FromPartido Nacionalista y Unionista
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessagePCE your gibberish makes no sense. The PCE is a terrorist organisation that initiated a terrorist campaign against the people of Egelion. If the PCE isn't a terrorist organisation then you should unilaterally surrender your arms and end this conflict.

Date13:59:17, April 23, 2018 CET
FromPartido Comunista de Egelion
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageWe are not terrorists, and we are not against the people because we have the support of a part of the citizens, which seems that the league is underestimating. we will not give up. If this government or any other one attacks the interests of the working class, it will always be ahead of us. If you want to stop the bloodshed you have to listen to our demands. And we do not think about giving our weapons to anyone

Date14:03:04, April 23, 2018 CET
FromPartido Nacionalista y Unionista
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageThe PCE are a terrorist organisation, the fact that your party illegally continues to use weapons against the people is an example of this. There is no legality to the violence that the PCE started. The Liga are more for the working class in this country than the PCE, we respect the conservative and religious nature of the country and do not try and import foreign ideology to ferment class struggle.


Date14:16:20, April 23, 2018 CET
FromPartido Comunista de Egelion
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageThat is why in the last elections you have lost 6 deputies. Egelian society may be conservative, but not fascist, and the PCE has always been either a second or a governing force. And in the most important province, Amateria, we almost always win. It seems that The government did not learn anything from the conflict. We want you to understand that in a "democracy" laws can not be applied to pursue political dissidence.

Date14:30:43, April 23, 2018 CET
FromPartido Nacionalista y Unionista
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageActually, gained 4 :P

Again your gibberish makes no sense. In a democracy a party that loses an election shouldn't be free to start a terrorist campaign against the people/

Date15:37:04, April 23, 2018 CET
FromPartido Comunista de Egelion
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
Messageman, lose lose I have not lost I am the second force and you have lost the support of the alliance of the regions

Date15:38:10, April 23, 2018 CET
FromPartido Comunista de Egelion
ToDebating the First ceasefire negotiation attempt.
MessageIf you had not initiated the anti communist laws it would not have happened

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 39

no
  

Total Seats: 65

abstain
  

Total Seats: 16


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