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Bill: "inter arma enim silent leges"
Details
Submitted by[?]: Luthori Tory Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2200
Description[?]:
| Desperate times may call for desperate measures to be employed without hesitation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government regulation of hunting.
Old value:: Hunting and fishing activities are restricted to designated areas and periods.
Current: Hunting and fishing is not regulated.
Proposed: The matters of hunting and fishing are handled by local governments.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:43:39, March 10, 2006 CET | From | Shuggoth Progressive Party | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | I would support Article 2, but not Article 1. And I loved that episode! But I think you missed the point of it if you think this bill is related to it somehow hehe. |
| Date | 01:45:45, March 11, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | Great episode, but can't see the connection to the bill. |
| Date | 23:53:04, March 11, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | The hunting thing was more of an afterthought, but Article 2 is to do with it in that "In times of war, the law falls silent.". id est that while 99% of the time, all adults are free from military training being forced upon them, desparate times... |
| Date | 09:21:16, March 13, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | I'm lost: what's this episode you're all talking about? |
| Date | 11:58:22, March 13, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine ;) |
| Date | 12:07:56, March 13, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | Okay. I don't mind article one (don't mind either way, so long as hunting is allowed) but oppose article two as it would reduce our combat effectiveness at the times when we need a professional army most. |
| Date | 19:17:50, March 13, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | As opposed to banning open homosexuality and restricting the role of women? Besides which, should we be attacked, we will need all the men and women we can get to defend our borders. |
| Date | 00:55:21, March 14, 2006 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | That's what I've been saying for years, Tory! |
| Date | 08:55:02, March 14, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | That is not true. Women and benders add nothing to the strength of COMBAT ARMS. |
| Date | 17:19:47, March 14, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | Well, since we all seem to have made our decisions, more-or-less, shall we proceed to vote? |
| Date | 22:30:56, March 15, 2006 CET | From | Shuggoth Progressive Party | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | "In time of war, the law falls silent", involved the idea that even an otherwise tolerant, benevolent Federation would violate it's core principles if victory was not achievable otherwise. When push came to shove, they were no better than the Romulans (with their Tal Shiar secret agency), or the Cardassians (with their Obsidian Order secret agency). Yes I'm an incurable startrek dork hehe. |
| Date | 22:46:33, March 15, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Tory Party | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | That's not what the saying means, however :P And yes, it was a good episode. I consider most of seasons 6 & 7 good. |
| Date | 00:29:57, March 16, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the "inter arma enim silent leges" |
| Message | Don't worry SPP, you aren't alone. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 338 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 412 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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