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Bill: P.d.i. 03/4404: National Service Implementation Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Istalia Unita
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4405
Description[?]:
| The following act seeks to establish a compulsory National Service Association, in order to increase national unity, improve employability, reduce national unemployment and develop new industry and infrastructure to provide a benchmark for future public and private sector investment. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Current: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term of civilian national service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:06:58, June 07, 2018 CET | From | Istalia Unita | To | Debating the P.d.i. 03/4404: National Service Implementation Act |
| Message | The aim of this act is to use excess labour to boost our economy while also improving the standing of living of vast sectors of the poor via National Service employment, developing the education and skill base of our population while simultaneously improving infrastructure and industry. Davino Bartone Chairman of the CC Sinistra Istaliana |
| Date | 08:11:24, June 07, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.i. 03/4404: National Service Implementation Act |
| Message | Alba Naopleon, ULD Chairperson National Service is not employment, and it just increases the already large sum that we spend on defence. |
| Date | 18:09:52, June 07, 2018 CET | From | Istalia Unita | To | Debating the P.d.i. 03/4404: National Service Implementation Act |
| Message | I think the ULDs assertion that people paid to do a job aren't employed reenforces the idiocy of their party and of our present government. Such servicemen would serve as civilians and work on infastructure and investment projects in local communities. I would be very interested to hear what the liberal democrats think being employed even is? As for defence spending, wouldn't it be far better for everyone involved if the investment in defence went towards economic and infrastructural development rather than simply to buy tanks to rust in the countryside? Davino Bartone Chairman of the CC Sinistra Istaliana |
| Date | 18:49:23, June 07, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.i. 03/4404: National Service Implementation Act |
| Message | Alba Napoleon, ULD Chairperson Employment, in a liberal, capitalist democracy like ours, is always voluntary. |
| Date | 22:56:39, June 07, 2018 CET | From | Partito Nazionale Democratico | To | Debating the P.d.i. 03/4404: National Service Implementation Act |
| Message | Luciano Vespa-Baldassare, PND Vice Leader, We have several issues concerning national service in times of peace. Firstly, we are taking away potentially valuable workforce from the market. Secondly, said workforce becomes an inefficient and unmotivated burden on the tax payer. In the day and age when boots on the ground are less required than ever before thanks to drones and other unmanned military devices, it is crucial that our professional military is as the name implies: professional. Which includes commitment and desire for the noble cause of protecting the homeland. |
| Date | 23:50:05, June 07, 2018 CET | From | Istalia Unita | To | Debating the P.d.i. 03/4404: National Service Implementation Act |
| Message | ooc: did anyone read the bill in question. It is a civilian national service. This is not conscription. The people on the national service program aren't trained to fight, they carry out community work and infrastructure development. |
| Date | 23:56:06, June 07, 2018 CET | From | Istalia Unita | To | Debating the P.d.i. 03/4404: National Service Implementation Act |
| Message | Employment? Voluntary? To be frank, don't be daft your excellency. People don't have a choice of working and never have done, unless the dole is a choice worth taking. People need to work, that has always been the case, indeed the market relies on a steady supply of labour and a reserve army of unemployed people in order to function effectively. Wages are determined by the supply and demand of labour, supply which must be maintained in order to decrease wage levels and maintain an effective profit margin. It is a shame that those who proclaim themselves economists on the right live in such a fantasy land. Another demonstration of how out of touch the ULD is with the electorate, let alone with reality. Davino Bartone Chairman of the CC Sinistra Istaliana |
| Date | 08:43:19, June 08, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.i. 03/4404: National Service Implementation Act |
| Message | Ooc: I mean, I guessed that it would use the defence funds so that's why I wrote the first comment |
| Date | 08:51:47, June 08, 2018 CET | From | Nuova Unione | To | Debating the P.d.i. 03/4404: National Service Implementation Act |
| Message | Alba Napoleon, ULD Chairperson The ULD understands the people,that is why we were dominating the Istalian political scene of the last century. The people want a strong, capitalist economy that we peovide them; they want to be able to develop their small, family businesses with ease and safety. And tes, people must work; that is the most natural thing in our spciety: if you want to be a part of it, you must have input in the form of employment. Being employed is, however, a choice; you may not work, however the state will not provide you with any funds if you aren't actively seeking to change that state of things. That is fair. However, people also choose where to work; this will make it impossible. You will make it harder for young people to gain experience because of taking their time on whatever this is. And, may I tell you; lower supply means higher wages. This will increase the field of workforce qualified to do specific jobs; they will do them. Which will, in return, make their wages lower. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 156 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 308 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 41 |
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