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Bill: Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4408
Description[?]:
| In accordance with the government procedure act of 4181 and the 4249 executive order of then-President Zdzisław Marceli, President John Fredrickson IV nominates Dr. Florea of the KWRF and Richard Teller of the Beluzian Communist Party as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia. These two names were chosen because they were the highest vote-getters besides President Fredrickson and the untrustworthy Dr. Wewecho Pantafloja Junior who the President refused to nominate due to his criminal past. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:07:23, June 13, 2018 CET | From | United Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | The vote is only for documentation purposes. |
| Date | 04:08:40, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Beluzian Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | We oppose this, we want Dr Wewecho Pantafloja to be vice president. |
| Date | 04:09:14, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Beluzian Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | he won second place fair and square. |
| Date | 10:42:01, June 13, 2018 CET | From | United Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | “Once we get the eligibility bill back in the laws he won’t be eligible for office anyway so it would be pointless.” |
| Date | 16:33:05, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | According to the law there is only one Vice President selected allowed. Pick one. |
| Date | 16:39:37, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | The law was written without consultation of past legislation and executive orders. It was never put to vote, and thus we deem it invalid |
| Date | 16:48:03, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | Then don't quote it to create vice presidents out of thin air. Dictatorial powers aren't allowed for anyone. Not even you. |
| Date | 18:58:52, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | We never quoted it to create Vice Presidents out of thin air. Again, as I said, if you actually took the time to look at legislation passed rather than arguing with us over something which you know nothing of, then you will understand the real background. Also, don't call me a dictator. I'm a socialist party and have I ever, in this game, said that I want to implement a one party state that kills all capitalists? So please think about what you're saying before you question our motives, because I think that's hypocritical. You say that the so called 'socialist' states have destroyed humanity because they are dictatorial, and now you are kind of comparing be to them. |
| Date | 19:04:20, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | Then you have no law to refer to to give you legal authority to create "Vice Presidents". I don't see it written anywhere. Show me it. If you support the creation of it then you are acting like a dictator regardless of the fake indignation you want to use to justify your position. |
| Date | 19:10:30, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=531848 |
| Date | 19:11:05, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | There you go. You should have looked for it yourself when I told you it was done by my party. The RRP did no research when writing the Beluzian Code 4314, and we were not aware that it existed |
| Date | 19:30:02, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | On the contrary it is up to the proposer and those supporting the bills give full disclosure about relevant bills as part of their effort not to mislead Congress. This should include reference links instead of using "go look it up yourself" tactics. Was this document ever repealed? |
| Date | 19:37:32, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | The Executive Order or the Code? |
| Date | 19:39:13, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | "The Executive Order" |
| Date | 19:41:06, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | Nope |
| Date | 19:50:52, June 13, 2018 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Appointing Dr Florea, and Richard Teller as Vice Presidents of the Republic of Beluzia |
| Message | In view of the evidence presented and unless new evidence comes to light to the contrary Liberty accept this particular process. Though we will go on record as saying it is a bizarre policy. We feel one Vice President is more than enough. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 354 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 198 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 198 |
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