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Bill: Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2

Details

Submitted by^[?]: One Nation Socialist Party

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2204

Description^[?]:

Puts control back on the industry.

Proposals

Article 1

Proposal^[?] to change Policy concerning industrial hemp.

Old value:: Industrial hemp regulations are left up to local governments.

Current: Industrial hemp regulations are left up to local governments.

Proposed: Only regulated agribusinesses may produce industrial hemp.

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	15:49:52, March 12, 2006 CET
From	Rightist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	We shall oppose. This is nothing more than the government involving itself in a business that it has no right to. Besides that, the people do not want industrial hemp. In fact, they want it banned.

Date	16:29:33, March 12, 2006 CET
From	Social-Conservative party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	We shall support

Date	09:35:32, March 13, 2006 CET
From	One Nation Socialist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	Tell me where it says that every single tukaralian wants to ban it!

Date	14:55:24, March 13, 2006 CET
From	Rightist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	Did I say they all want it banned? No I didn't say that. I said the people, meaning the majority, do not want it and they want it banned.

Date	18:32:44, March 13, 2006 CET
From	One Nation Socialist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	The people mean the people. And why can't the swizable proportion that want to impose more control over the industry, can't they ever hava a say?

Date	21:55:42, March 13, 2006 CET
From	Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	we find nothing wrong about the current legislation

Date	23:05:05, March 13, 2006 CET
From	One Nation Socialist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	the current leglislation imposes no ensured control over the production

Date	23:37:36, March 13, 2006 CET
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	Actually banning it is the highest form of control one can have.

Date	09:35:26, March 14, 2006 CET
From	One Nation Socialist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	no because it still goes on but illegally! Which is the worse of 2 evils!

Date	15:58:41, March 14, 2006 CET
From	Rightist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	Can you prove that ONCP?

Date	18:14:17, March 15, 2006 CET
From	One Nation Socialist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	can you prove it doesn't? I'm going on what happens from my exerience of society. That is that government loses all control over industries that are made illegal and the criminal world takes over. A good example of this would be gambling.

Date	18:56:45, March 15, 2006 CET
From	Rightist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	Burden of proof is on you actually.

Date	09:46:37, March 16, 2006 CET
From	One Nation Socialist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	proof in itself isn't needed but it is the fact thst this bill would enble us to control the industry.

Date	20:53:42, March 16, 2006 CET
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	To borrow your words, no it wont. There will still be a black market and it'll be cheaper. Its almost better to leave it alone than to mess with it.

Date	14:12:18, March 22, 2006 CET
From	One Nation Socialist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	yes and that black market would be easier to clamp down on.

Date	15:20:08, March 22, 2006 CET
From	Rightist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	HAHAHA!!! If it were easy to clamp down on the black market, a black market wouldn't exist in the first place as there is no profit in it. That had to be the dumbest statement I think I heard you make ONCP>

Date	18:04:33, March 22, 2006 CET
From	Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	moving to a vote now?

Date	19:12:13, March 22, 2006 CET
From	One Nation Socialist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	actually the joke is on you! I was talking about more people preffering to stay in the trade making a smaller profit and still keeping out of prison than people making a slightly bigger profit but being banged up in prison. It isn't as hard to clamp down on illegal trade if the trade itself is regulated.

Date	20:12:14, March 22, 2006 CET
From	Rightist Party
To	Debating the Cleaning up industies. Bill No 2
Message	OOC: I guess someone doesn't know about the huge black market in the Former USSR.

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Voting

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Seats

yes

One Nation Socialist Party (74)
Social-Conservative party (36)

Total Seats: 110

Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists (71)
Rightist Party (62)
Patriot Party (46)

Total Seats: 179

abstain

DaVidan Theological Monarchist Party (10)
3wide.com Antiparticulates (0)
Self-Siding United (0)

Total Seats: 10

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