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Bill: 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit
Details
Submitted by[?]: Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 4427
Description[?]:
| Freedom ! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Freedom of information law.
Old value:: Classified files are released after a set period of time provided doing so is not deemed to endanger national security.
Current: Classified files are released after a set period of time.
Proposed: Classified files are released after a set period of time.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding bestiality (performing sexual acts with animals).
Old value:: Bestiality is illegal.
Current: Bestiality is illegal.
Proposed: Bestiality is only legal if it causes no damage to the animals concerned.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Policy on incest.
Old value:: Incestuous acts are illegal.
Current: Incestuous acts are illegal, but only actively prosecuted if pregnancy results.
Proposed: Incestuous acts are legal and incestuous marriages are legally recognised.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:53:50, July 17, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | we have any admendments dear left-wing deputies ? |
| Date | 15:11:29, July 19, 2018 CET | From | Nationale Konservative Partei | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | Freedom is when a person can’t have sex with an animal? What if the animal doesn’t want to have sex it will be classed as rape. Your so funny. |
| Date | 17:22:45, July 19, 2018 CET | From | Vereinigte Bürgerschaft Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | The VSPD has no morality anymore. |
| Date | 09:44:56, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | current law is too radical. since when did the liberals not believe in the individual freedom and right to choose? |
| Date | 09:45:46, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | since when do liberals talk about morality, and are advocates of state intervention in the lives of citizens? |
| Date | 11:28:09, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Vereinigte Bürgerschaft Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | You probably believe that we are libertarians but we are not. Your idea that "Incestuous acts are legal and incestuous marriages are legally recognised", is really a proposal that disgusts our liberal electorate. |
| Date | 12:03:45, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | Are you agree with ,, Incestous Acts are legal but incestous marriages aren't recognised' ? |
| Date | 12:06:40, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | Are you agree with,,Incestuous acts are illegal, but only actively prosecuted if pregnancy results.'' ? |
| Date | 12:07:41, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | Are you agree with ,,Policy on incest is determined by local governments.'' |
| Date | 12:19:03, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | I am asking you not to forget that Dundorf is traditionally a Libertarian Socialist nation, and incest and bestiality have been legal for centuries regardless of the government. |
| Date | 12:25:07, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | my party doesn't support ban. |
| Date | 13:03:30, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | we have a Libertarian Socialist morality. |
| Date | 13:53:52, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | OOC: views of my party is not my true wievs. |
| Date | 17:45:56, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | true liberal certainly does not vote for a law that completely forbids incest and zoophiles and pursuing these things, without any exceptions. There are worse things in this world. |
| Date | 17:46:18, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | * bestiality |
| Date | 17:47:14, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | if you agree with most articles, you should support this law. |
| Date | 17:49:15, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | The true liberal will never support any extremist law,regardless of whether it is a total permit or a total ban. |
| Date | 17:52:35, July 20, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | explain to me why not everyone should have the right to strike, and why there should be restrictions on this right other than that resulting from the principle "human freedom ends where the freedom of the other person begins", which in my opinion should be the only limitation of this right. |
| Date | 06:44:37, July 21, 2018 CET | From | Vereinigte Bürgerschaft Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | There are also owners whom have rights too. |
| Date | 11:01:17, July 21, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | and for this reason we are to deprive certain categories of workers of the right to strike, non-human, tyrannical and nonsense. |
| Date | 16:26:58, July 21, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | what about liberal idea of minimum state ? |
| Date | 17:05:30, July 21, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | eh, modern liberalism. |
| Date | 17:06:38, July 21, 2018 CET | From | Volks Sozialistische Partei Dundorfs | To | Debating the 1/4425 VA120 : Freiheit |
| Message | ah, these modern liberals. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 281 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 353 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 116 |
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