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Bill: IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200
Details
Submitted by[?]: Imperial Party of Selucian
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change income taxes. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2201
Description[?]:
| The Imperial Party of Selucian propose to adjust the government's income tax policy to better address the economic situation of the Selucian Empire. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Tax percentage of the profit made by corporations.
Old value:: 9
Current: 35
Proposed: 10.25
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Sales tax on essential goods such as food and non-luxury clothing.
Old value:: 3
Current: 0
Proposed: 2
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Sales tax on luxury goods.
Old value:: 12.5
Current: 30
Proposed: 13
Article 4
We propose to alter income tax brackets to the following setup. Information about the current income tax system can be found here.
| Bracket | Tax | Estimated Revenue |
| > 2,000 SEN | 4% | 3,424,000,000 SEN |
| > 3,500 SEN | 7% | 5,723,000,000 SEN |
| > 5,000 SEN | 10% | 11,432,000,000 SEN |
| > 8,000 SEN | 15% | 10,446,000,000 SEN |
| > 11,000 SEN | 20% | 10,869,000,000 SEN |
| > 15,000 SEN | 25% | 10,549,000,000 SEN |
| > 20,000 SEN | 30% | 7,789,000,000 SEN |
| > 25,000 SEN | 32% | 4,164,000,000 SEN |
| > 30,000 SEN | 34% | 3,677,000,000 SEN | Total | 68,073,000,000 SEN |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:45:51, March 15, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | NOPE you owe us an explanation, IPS I hope this gets blocked anyway. This will be undone once the VBS is in Finance position, we will turn back time then. BTW, IPS: Weren't you the one complaining about multi proposal bills? Hypocrisy Hypocrisy |
| Date | 15:07:40, March 15, 2006 CET | From | Imperial Party of Selucian | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | We needn'T as the SLP and the GMP as well as the NPMP will find their suggestions implemented in this proposal and we are sure they will remember. We, of course, know perfectly the delegates from the VBS weren't aren't and wont be able to remember anything the Imperial Senate spoke about in the past 2 years. ---- OOC: It would be great VBS if you were really able to keep stuff in topic. Multi-proposals are indeed bull§hit and we had several debates about this. During the debates it was clearly pointed out if someone wants to create a bill with more then 1 proposal it shall be of the same topic and shall be restricted upt to a maximum of 2 or 3. It is pitty but you are indeed stupid, really stupid profed by all your comments. Not only are you writing a bunch of silly stuff, no, you are also writing stuff without any historical content in your so loved "historical views". I will no longer tolerate your insulting behaviour towards my nation you really don'T have any idea about nor do you have any historical understanding. Neither do you understand capitalism nor do you understand communsim and you really don't understand the different greys between both philosphic points. |
| Date | 16:19:00, March 15, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | You wrote: you are also writing stuff without any historical content in your so loved "historical views" I just proposed making monuments and museums private, I look at the future, YOU look at the history (maybe because you are playing a 19th century party, that created the climate for WWI) You wrote: I will no longer tolerate your insulting behaviour towards my nation You started it, I just defend myself Maybe if you would stop calling me stupid and telling false information, I will show you enough repect too to stop insulting you too You don't GET my respect, you should EARN it. You wrote: A whole lot of bullshit, personal stuff and NO comment on your changed opinion concerning multi proposal bills |
| Date | 17:40:26, March 15, 2006 CET | From | New Passive Militarist Party | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | NPMP supports. |
| Date | 18:29:47, March 15, 2006 CET | From | Green Moderate Party | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | What suggestions of mine have been implemented? I am not inclined to vote for this at first glance, but maybe I am missing something. |
| Date | 19:25:14, March 15, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | In that case, since the SNP, the VBS, the GMP and the BWA vote against, this will fail. I hope the SLE (SLP is out for tens of years) makes a statement too by not supporting this |
| Date | 19:36:47, March 15, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | BTW, IPS, can I see your calculations about the more or less income the state will have by this? (or are you really DUMB enough to just propose some values you think suit better with a 19th century party?) |
| Date | 13:02:51, March 16, 2006 CET | From | Imperial Party of Selucian | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | Take your own calculator VBS. I am bored by you. |
| Date | 16:06:13, March 16, 2006 CET | From | Burning Wall Assembly | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | *A blodied member walks in. He then spitts on the floor and murmers ''you fools' |
| Date | 17:06:42, March 16, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | WHAT??? DO YOU MEAN YOU JUST ENTERED SOME VALUES??? NO CALCULATIONS WHATSOVER? IF YOU WANT ME TO SHOW WHY A BUDGET IS OR ISN'T GOOD, YOU SHOULD GIVE ME THE FINANCE POSITION You're a lazy, dumb, rude, weak guy, felixdeus. I hope you will follow Karl Bernhards example as soon as possible, it would make Selucia a better place. |
| Date | 17:14:30, March 16, 2006 CET | From | Imperial Party of Selucian | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | ooc: If you weren'T so stupid you would have found out the former bill is still present to compare the stuff. But, indeed, you have to open your eyes bastard. And stop to jerk off! Your mouth is big enough for your sucking attidudes. |
| Date | 17:15:49, March 16, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | Hugo Schooten, leader of the VBS party in West Shadar, said to a local journalist: "If the infamous income tax would pass, I promise you riots. People ain't tolerating a rebelling horde destroying years of progress. I will not ask my colleagues or voters to stay quiet, rather I will join them on their actions." Frank Dewinter, the Head of VBS national, has declared: "We do not officially support Hugo Schooten, but only because if we would we would get a process on our back for hate speech. However, we feel like every Selucian, VBS voter or VBS member should consider for himself if he actively supports the actions against this or not. We promise no member will be thrown out of the Party because he participates in riots about this." Outside the parliament are 2.000 T&T staff members, backed up by 5000 VBS members and at least 15.000 Trade Union Movement members, throwing rocks at Senators of parties that support this bill and blocking all trafic. There were some incidents with the police force |
| Date | 11:40:20, March 17, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | Indeed, the previous bill is still open It explains: The old tax system (can be found here too) Your vision on low, middle and high class Your vision on society Your vision on companies Your vision on VAT A conclusion you probably read somewhere else NO Balances Calculations (well, a few, but you never even calculated how much more or less this was going to be earned) Result of the bill (+..... SEN or - .....SEN more taxes) Conclusion: You're failing as a Finance minister, just like you were failing as a Defence minister, a Foreign affairs minister, actually, all ministers you ever delivered. |
| Date | 19:35:18, March 17, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the IPS - Income tax proposal of March 2200 |
| Message | Besides, nice how you blame me for saying something about your fascist nation while typing things yourself that could you get kicked of the game immediately in your last message |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 294 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 232 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 69 |
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