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Bill: RP Law - Appointment of A Chief Advisor To The Monarch
Details
Submitted by[?]: Zhtál-Merlkai Tjarziprta
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 4518
Description[?]:
Given that the Royal Veto remains in place in regards to the law on appointing the Patriarch of the Zhtál-Merlkai noble family as Chief Advisor to the Monarch in perpetuity, we propose an amended version of the bill. It is our belief that a chief advisor acting as a direct liaison between the Grand Council and the King is a good thing as it provides a vital link between His Majesty and this house in a more day-to-day role than can be provided through weekly meetings with the Prefect. It also allows the King to have a voice in this chamber and to raise points without the need to attend himself and make the process of passing bills and receiving royal approval more seamless. It is also a much more open way for the king to be advised and more in keeping with the processes of the nation, which allow the monarch to exercise powers and authorities within a democratic framework. However, we fully take on board the recommendation of the Special Committee which states that the hereditary nature of the original bill did raise cause for concern and, therefore, we have removed this and replaced it with an electable Chief Advisor. Please note, we also reflect comments made in the Committee that there is no doubting the integrity of Duke Jebr Zhtal and will still propose him as the first appointee to the position. This is the proposal: Article 1 - A Chief Advisor (Jez Vezr) To The Monarch shall be appointed by the government; Article 1(a) - The appointment of a Chief Advisor must be approved by a simple majority of the Grand Council and serves for 12 years (traditionally, two Grand Council election terms); Article 1(b) - After the 12-year duration, the government may ask for the appointment to be rolled over for another 12 years or for a new candidate to be nominated (a simple majority vote is required in either case); Article 1 (c) - If the Chief Advisor passes away or resigns his/her post due to other circumstances, such as illness, the government must immediately nominate a new appointee; Article 1 (d) - On passage of this bill the first appointee to the role of Chief Advisor is Lord Jebr Zhtal, Duke of Vrkzel; Article 2 - The Chief Advisor shall, where necessary, represent or assist the monarch on formal and state occasions, receive or liaise with ambassadors from foreign countries and take part in other ceremonial duties, as required; Article 3 - The Chief Advisor shall assist and advise the monarch on the use of the Royal Veto, on the issue of the Royal Succession and other constitutional and legislative affaIrs; Article 4 - The Chief Advisor shall liaise with the government of the day on behalf of the monarch and may address the Grand Council on legislation; Article 5 - On occasions when the Monarch is temporarily incapacitated, absent or in the case of passing when the heir is not of adult age, the Grand Advisor shall act as Regent, overseeing the royal duties within the kingdom and in facilitating the royal succession as seamless as possible ; (OOC: This is a constitutional RP Law, as governed by Section 6.e. of the Game Rules (http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8088).As this introduces changes to the constitution it requires a 2/3 majority to pass, and it would similarly require a 2/3rds majority vote to overturn or amend it. Herlkai Adlésrmko Vrhelmszo Prefect of Vanuku |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Wrntukai VI Jezhrje'konak'aerzsrlji Konzsrljihiko yrzy Wrnukaék Konz yrzy Jelbijékaiék Mrjkai yrzy Drsmojrzataghék Krté Kshihiko yrzy Wrnukaék Knzknstaték Abshrmojadhiko yrzy Kutsalkaiék Lawrns-Wrntukai I-ék Brnk yrzy Heijikaiék Ol'itá yrzy Wrnukaék Frto yrzy Prnznrdék trzy Hefaék Jezbék yrzy Ibthoék inDuna yrzy Skwoék Yukatchuék Srnebrjohiko yrzy Banmek-Sntazedék Frtogad - Jez Srnebrjohiko Zhtál-Merlkai Frtogad (His Gracious Majesty Wrntukai VI, King of Vanuku, Protector of the Jelbic Peoples, Heaven's Wolf Child, Sovereign of the Kingdom of Vanuku, Heir of Saint Laŭrenco I, Sword of the Righteous, Pater Patriae, Duke of Prinsenaard and Hefa, InDuna of Ibutho, member of the Sekowan Yukatchu, Patriarch of the House of Banmek-Sntazed - Represented by the Chief Advisor, the Patriarch of the House Zhtál-Merlkai)
Current:
Jezknstaték yrzy Jezhrje'konak'aerzsrlji Konzsrljihikoék BUNJAMÍN orzy Jelb'koékaiék Jezkonz yrzy Jelbijékaiék Mrjkai yrzy Wrnukaék Konz yrzy Beíték Mlé yrzy Brmék Shá yrzy Drsmojrzataghék Krté Kshihiko yrzy Mitoék Mirz yrzy Jelbék H'ánknstaték trzy Pnték Konzknstaték grzy Abshrmojadhiko yrzy Kutsalkaié Lawrns-Wrntukai grzy Brnk yrzy Heijikaiék Ol'itá yrzy Jelb'koékaiék Frto yrzy Nrlzisrlji kaerajoza Nrlzinyrsrlji yrzy Prnznrdék trzy Hefaék trzy Merlkaitakék grzy Jezbék yrzy Ibthoék inDuna yrzy Skwoék Yukatchu yrzy Srnebrjohiko yrzy Banmek-Sntazedék Frtogad (His Imperial and Gracious Majesty BUNJAMÍN, Emperor of the Jelbic Peoples, Protector of the Jelbic Peoples, King of Vanuku, Meleh of Beiteynu, Shah of Barmenia, Heaven’s Wolf Child, Prince of the West, Sovereign of the Khanate of Jelbe and the Kingdom of Pontesi, Heir of Saint Laŭrenco, Sword of the Righteous, Father of all Jelbic nations, Enlightened among the Unenlightened, Duke of Prinsenaard, Hefa and Merlkaitak, InDuna of Ibutho, member of the Sekoan Yukatchu, Patriarch of the House of Banmek-Sntazed, and so on) |
Proposed: Wrntukai VI Jezhrje'konak'aerzsrlji Konzsrljihiko yrzy Wrnukaék Konz yrzy Jelbijékaiék Mrjkai yrzy Drsmojrzataghék Krté Kshihiko yrzy Wrnukaék Knzknstaték Abshrmojadhiko yrzy Kutsalkaiék Lawrns-Wrntukai I-ék Brnk yrzy Heijikaiék Ol'itá yrzy Wrnukaék Frto yrzy Prnznrdék trzy Hefaék Jezbék yrzy Ibthoék inDuna yrzy Skwoék Yukatchuék Srnebrjohiko yrzy Banmek-Sntazedék Frtogad - Srnebrjod Jez Vezr (His Gracious Majesty Wrntukai VI, King of Vanuku, Protector of the Jelbic Peoples, Heaven's Wolf Child, Sovereign of the Kingdom of Vanuku, Heir of Saint Laŭrenco I, Sword of the Righteous, Pater Patriae, Duke of Prinsenaard and Hefa, InDuna of Ibutho, member of the Sekowan Yukatchu, Patriarch of the House of Banmek-Sntazed) - Represented by the Chief Advisor
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 11:10:06, January 16, 2019 CET | From | Zhtál-Merlkai Tjarziprta | To | Debating the RP Law - Appointment of A Chief Advisor To The Monarch |
Message | Mr Speaker, This is now in the debate stage; We ask all Grand Council Members for any amendments, modifications and suggestions to come forward at this stage. Herlkai Adlésrmko Vrhelmszo Prefect of Vanuku |
Date | 01:14:45, January 18, 2019 CET | From | Hsnutszlk'aikék Grundnyr | To | Debating the RP Law - Appointment of A Chief Advisor To The Monarch |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The King still contests this bill and will not sign this if it passes. The committee was there to judge whether his Royal Veto was correct, not to amend the legislation so they find it acceptable too. As such this will be considered illegal. On behalf of His Gracious Majesty King Wrntukai VI, Dnkai Shlajkaisrmo Aide to the King of Vanuku |
Date | 11:05:28, January 18, 2019 CET | From | Zhtál-Merlkai Tjarziprta | To | Debating the RP Law - Appointment of A Chief Advisor To The Monarch |
Message | Mr Speaker, We thank Mr Shlajkaisrmo for his response on the behalf of the King. For clarity, the Special Investigations Committee made a recommendation following its ruling - a perfectly acceptable committee procedure to attempt to clear the constitutional impasse we face. Subsequently, we have acted upon their recommendation and added a significant democratic element to the appointment process.So, in short, we are happy with the legislation and believe it is a pragmatic compromise. Does Mr Shlajkaisrmo have any amendments he wishes to make on behalf of the king? If not, we will shortly move it to vote and have every confidence that it will enter into law. Herlkai Adlésrmko Vrhelmszo Prefect of Vanuku |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||
yes |
Total Seats: 188 | ||
no | Total Seats: 0 | ||
abstain | Total Seats: 37 |
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