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Bill: Executive change Act 452X
Details
Submitted by[?]: Grand Nationalist Fraction
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 4548
Description[?]:
| For far to long the people of Lodamun have been forced to early elections each time their President resigned or was voted away. We believe another system to be much more effective, with the MP's, elected by the people, having the power to vote another person for Presidential office. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Current: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Proposed: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: Prime Minister of the 2nd Great Democratic Republic of Lodamun
Current: Vice-President of the Commonwealth
Proposed: President
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:47:09, January 22, 2019 CET | From | Prince-Republican League - New EAPP | To | Debating the Executive change Act 452X |
| Message | An overpompous public letter to the only parliamentary party in Lodamun find its way into Presidium: “While Peasants Party is mostly mildly supportive of the reform at hand, would it not be apt to reflect the changing nature of the executive power in the official international name of our governing regime? We’ve unanimously decided to feel that extreme honesty mg in these matters is the greatest guarantee of international goodwill. Signed, Ecofeudalist-Antinatalist Peasant Party” |
| Date | 21:02:42, January 22, 2019 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Executive change Act 452X |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we are willing to discuss the matter with EAPP, but yet we want a little bit of clarification on what exactly our colleagues of EAPP mean. Frank Mortelé President of the 2nd Great Democratic Republic of Lodamun (OOC: each party of this nation, even if it is not represented in Presidium, is entitled of having a delegation in Presidium to discuss several matters) |
| Date | 08:03:24, January 23, 2019 CET | From | Prince-Republican League - New EAPP | To | Debating the Executive change Act 452X |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, from what we gather the message is concerned that continued presentation of Lodamun as a democratic republic while constructing a quasi-hereditary system, especially following the, excuse my language, quite *undemocratic* alterations of January 4518 might only achieve universal international snickering at our expense. We suggest that if Lodamun is internally reverting to the systems of ancient Lodamese Principality, it should proudly present itself outward in a corresponding manner and officially change its name. -Some mostly unknown delegate from EAPP |
| Date | 20:15:58, January 23, 2019 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Executive change Act 452X |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I hear the EAPP, but I don't quite agree with them. The Head of State would be a President elected by the parties represented in Presidium. The only thing that would be hereditary is the institution 'President', with the successor being a Lodamese citizen elected by the Presidium and thus the people. This is a very democratic idea, and therefore we see no reason to change our nation's name. Frank Mortelé President of Lodamun |
| Date | 07:58:04, January 26, 2019 CET | From | Prince-Republican League - New EAPP | To | Debating the Executive change Act 452X |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, are we to understand, then, that the message clearly in black-on-white of "The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet" is, in fact, an optical illusion and we should pay no mind to it? How does LWA read anything other than "the positions of Head of State and Head of Government are to be separated again with the Head of State part being made into a pseudo-monarchical symbolic institution"? If that's not it, if that's not their intention, we suggest them to first reread the text of the proposal and then explain to us how that couldn't be the meaning of it and what it really is. -Some angrily confused even less relevant delegate from EAPP |
| Date | 02:31:29, February 11, 2019 CET | From | Lodamese Democratic Progressive Party | To | Debating the Executive change Act 452X |
| Message | // It should be of note that this proposal the LWA is proposing is how a nation in this game can make a President that is elected indirectly through the legislature. I remember the system being like this back when I started in this nation before. From what I recall, the idea is to change the Head of State's title to an empty space, the HoG to "President", get a figure elected to Head of State simply called "The President" before locking it to be symbolic so it would show that the HoS is "The President" referring to the HoG. By doing this, it essentially makes it to where you can choose the president via Cabinet Proposals. Though I'm not sure if my party would wanna try this again; they would probably rather support a system allowing direct election of the Head of State by the people, honestly. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 599 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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