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Bill: Return of the democratic process Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Liberal Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 4530
Description[?]:
We shall return to democratic process! Parties should no longer been forced to a small quota and such enforce a higher number through which parties can propose and debate. Is fair and more democratic. People want active parties, and you want to be able to propose bills.
Who agrees with me?
Until now:
-RLP
-IFA |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:33:35, February 11, 2019 CET |
From |  National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | The bill put repackaged. HDpR why do you not support it? You accused me of changing political stances, seems that you too. You were one of the biggest supporters with me and DCM to support a bill that keeps high number of bills. You changed, we are humans, we change. Recognize that you changed.
Also this bill is for broader freedoms for parties to do something in the first place. |
| Date | 16:14:12, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | Other parties. If you want democracy and be able to push agendas more or at least have quota when needed vote yes. Will improve your freedom of playing the game. This is not spamming, you can propose more and change more. |
| Date | 16:15:33, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | I already told them that I was tricked that it wont be that bad. I tried my best. I saw it again popping up and I though it cannot be bad. I made a big mistake. People do stupid things. My stupid thing done is to support it. |
| Date | 16:26:42, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | I am human, but HDpR forgets that we are humans, he expects me not doing mistakes. I did it, I recognize I once thought that spam act is not that bad, turned out that it hurt the gameplay. Now I realize my mistake that I voted yes without thinking twice on it. As such I will try to not repeat the mistake ever. I am a human, I change. HDpR is a robot. |
| Date | 16:42:28, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | Is automatically wrong not recognizing people are failable and not perfect. I do mistakes, you ? That why I told you are robot. You still avoid telling reasons why opposing this bill. Scared cat... |
| Date | 16:43:09, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | At least I try responding and proving my point, you? You just pinpoint with the blame finger right and left. Stop it. Try to give reasons for your actions and stop cherry-picking wrongdoings of the other. |
| Date | 16:46:51, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | And is also not constructive. Try to be more polite. Stop trying to show other that do bad things and start doing for this country. You deserve few seats, as you all known is to argue without producing something better for people. During my terms in office I did lots of things. You? Blaming... |
| Date | 16:55:55, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | First argument is flawed, that is the logic of the game. Also first one resonates with the other one.
So second and first arguments point the same thing. That we should not be able to be active. This game does not detail how law is publicized. How there are no many laws people can easily know what is going on. Also this is just a RP mechanic attempt, people in this game are just numbers. And last. Where do you know people cannot adapt or the Gov has a easy to check official legislation policy.
As I said. You have no true reasons to oppose, just fake ones. So please say your real reasons or better one. |
| Date | 17:02:44, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | Scared cat is not bad trash talk. We did not sweared or use ugly language. If you feel offended then apologizies from me. But still, you cherry-pick wrongdoings without truly winning the argument. We still wait to know why you search so desperately to stop this bill with true reasons. Also we are curious to know why you focus more on showing other parties wrongdoings than trying to do something real for Rutania than just creating fake drama. |
| Date | 17:04:55, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | Start arguing with reasons:
-Why you desperate to stop this (real reasons not just fake RP)
-Why you want to just show wrongdoings instead of making this country truly better
-Even if you have proves that I did talked bad to you still does not excuse yourself from your pinpointing behaviour of trying to lay blame on others.
Think wise at this three points and show me real reasons. Still waiting... |
| Date | 17:09:55, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | Hosian Democratic party of Rutania | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | Worth saying that RLP have a great party speaker. The party still talks like a winner when they lose debate.
"Doing something real for Rutania" don't has to be proposing bills It can also be preventing the country from negative changes. |
| Date | 17:12:38, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | Yes you have right with this point. One good point, I realize when I am right. For example now I did a mistake. You win this small debate. But still avoiding the other questions. Tell their answers and you might win. Not telling reasons it might make you look like runing cat. |
| Date | 17:15:22, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | Hosian Democratic party of Rutania | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | OOC: We are playing a RP game, and everything inside the game is RP and not real. I don't personally hate RLP just because it is my political enemy inside the game. That's why I can only give arguments from RP.
Please keep the conversation RP. Thank you. |
| Date | 17:16:57, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | See? I can realize when I am wrong, unlike you , I never said I am right. I prove my points until realize you are right. For now I am showing that I loose sometimes, as always, meanwhile you still try to look perfect and not accept a single point of me being right. Are you perfect? Answer the question. You seem to like answering to this one with yes. While for me, I am not perfect, I do mistakes, I am not always calm and polite and sometimes I propose bad bills and change my political vies on certain laws. See? I am a HUMAN. You still did not passed the test of humanity. |
| Date | 17:22:11, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | Hosian Democratic party of Rutania | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | We are neither perfect. Thats the answer. But we have the right to express our opinions, and to have debate when needed.
OOC:And when you said: You still did not passed the test of humanity, do you meant the party, party leader or me the player? |
| Date | 17:32:05, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | Is nothing. The debate was good one. You have won some points, proved your point on this bill but without reasonable motive from my perspective and you proved why you lay blame on me. I do mistakes XD. For now. The debate is moderately won by you, but on things that do not implicate this bill. This bill is still good, but you defeated me on other things. |
| Date | 17:36:52, February 11, 2019 CET |
From | National Liberal Party | To | Debating the Return of the democratic process Bill | | Message | IG; Passed sometime from my last debates. Lol I have intelligence and capability but love to rush, that destroys my arguments. Lol. I could easily won and avoid mistakes, but human happens. |
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| yes | Total Seats: 559 |
| no | Total Seats: 72 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 119 |
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