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Bill: Phone Services (Regulation Of)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2209
Description[?]:
| Whereas: The Free Republic of Jelbania maintains a deregulated system of private phone service providers. Whereas: This system has no regulation concerning charges, or prevention of monopoly. Henceforth, should this Bill be enacted into Law: The government shall subsidise telephone line bills for the lowest income families, and the rates for phone services shall be regulated on a national and regional basis to ensure fairness and avoid monopolisation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning phone services.
Old value:: There are no regulations on phone service.
Current: There are no regulations on phone service.
Proposed: The state subsidizes the phone service of low income families, and regulates the rates providers can charge for phone service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:55:02, March 31, 2006 CET | From |  Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | As the current situation stands, our citizens in some cases face exploitation by unregulated unscrupulous phone service providers. Low income families, the unemployed, and the poorest home owners are hugely disadvantaged by this system, considering that phone use is essential in modern life:- For example, in obtaining a job, in liasing with schools, in contacting hospitals, dentists and opticians, in arranging transport and many other areas. Therefore the Democratic Labour Party believes reform is needed! Please support this bill to assist our most disadvantaged citizens. |
| Date | 21:18:20, March 31, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | You no what people do if faced with, hmmm, "unregulated unscrupulous phone service providers?" They switch!!!!!!!!! People are not stupid. Furthermore, you are not infinitly wise. |
| Date | 21:46:18, March 31, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | When private phone companies are able to achieve a monopoly, as is often the case with phone service provision, then customers simply cannot switch. When the prices of these self-same companies are not regulated, they can charge extortionately. This hits the poor more than any other group, and if the government of the Republic can prevent it, it should. The DLP believe the Conservative party are merely seeking to line their own pockets, through owning shares in these grossly over expensive phone companies. |
| Date | 00:05:31, April 01, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | Yes, "line my own pockets" at the age of 15. I work at Clemans grocery market; The whole 3 shares of a corporation I could buy per month would not do much. And here we are again with the "you are not infinitly wise" thing. If a company has a monopoly, it is because the people buy from that phone company. And what are you talking about with the "When private phone companies are able to achieve a monopoly, as is often the case with phone service provision" comment??? My dad can switch companies any time he wants. Wait, wait, wait! That sounds like capitalism! But, perhaps if stopped REGULATING private companies, new ones would arise! Who says you need a phone, anyway? |
| Date | 01:17:29, April 01, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | OOC: C_Braun, everything I have been saying is In Character. I am not referring to you as a person in Real Life. I am speaking as the Democratic Labour Party. Obviously our parties are going to disagree, our ideologies are different. I was referring to the fact that traditionally Conservative Parties are made up of rich landowners and business owners who stand to profit from the privatisation of services. When I mentioned shares, I wasn't talking about the 3 you could buy monthly in Real Life. Get it? =D |
| Date | 01:22:00, April 01, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | OOC: Furthermore, to respond to you OOC comments OOCly, unregulated companies FIX PRICES. Deregulated economies benefit only shareholders. It is insanity. It is also unnecessary to have more than one phone service in a country, and I am speaking about real life now also. So long as that government run phone service is properly managed, and geared to look after the customer not after profits. Once a company that purely pursues profit achieves a monopoly through cheap prices or whatever, it will then hike the prices and rip people off. This always happens. It is what is happening with oil companies here in Britain. It is madness. |
| Date | 01:25:00, April 01, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | IC: This bill will merely ensure the worst off in society can afford to use a telephone. It will also ensure that prices are fair for all. It will not enfringe on the phone market in anyway. Companies do not need a completely free market to operate in, and such completely free markets exist nowhere on Terra. Some regulation is necessary to protect the rights and properties of our citizens. Keir MacDonald Democratic Labour Party |
| Date | 03:29:20, April 01, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | No, actually parties like mine are not made up of rich landowners. Do you know why? There are not many out there. My dad is a middle class worker and he shares in my opinions. Actually, I know quite a few families who share them. |
| Date | 03:31:46, April 01, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | You forget that business is run by PEOPLE, not some weird demon beings seeking to kill us all, and they have rights too. |
| Date | 13:41:09, April 01, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | OOC: I guess you must be living in some sort of Conservative wonderland. Where I come from, the Conservative party looks out for this rich. IC: The DLP considers that the Conservative party has not put up a reasonable opposition to the bill. The conditions detailed in this bill are self evident to any socially conscious citizen of Jelbania. |
| Date | 01:11:40, April 02, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | You forget that if we help out business a little bit, more jobs are created and that helps people a lot. As much as you people say we are for the rich and you are for the poor, we both are for to help the poor; we just have completely different ways of doing things. Mine happens to be the FREE one. |
| Date | 01:14:43, April 02, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | Well if that is the case, vote for subsidies! If an industry is in need of help, the government can help it if our other bill passes. This ensure people keep their jobs. This ensures the government continue to receive their taxes. We, the DLP, can understand your opposition to this bill, but think sensibly. |
| Date | 01:54:41, April 03, 2006 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the Phone Services (Regulation Of) |
| Message | Interesting debate. The current law was made only recently and the Citizens Party supported it. We still believe that deregulating the telephone industry did away with needless government bureaucracy. Therefore we cannot support this bill. However, we leave open the possibility of providing assistance to low-income families (without regulation). |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 150 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 196 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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