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Bill: The Ghastly State of Education
Details
Submitted by[?]: New Daio Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2210
Description[?]:
With the recent introduction of full state subsidy for college tuition, the education budget is now underfunded by approximately 350 billion ZAR. We are unable to fund the subsidy with any frequency, the public-funded universities are already beginning to show strain and lack of resources, not to mention primary schools, forcefully thrown from privitization without suffecient funding in the first place, have taken yet another hit to their budget, and each child in Zardugal is getting an estimated $450 monthly to educate, which is woefully inadequate within a public system, (but not a private one, mind you). As finance minister I *demand* the Directory come to their senses and realize that the quality of education in this nation is dropping dramatically, and the availability is going down, not up. Our options are to either A) Raise taxes or B) Reduce the strain on the existing budget. As I will not advocate raising taxes, this bill as proposed will reduce the budget strain. ~Miho Sonoda, DAM |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Current: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The government introduces means tested loans for higher education tuition, to be paid back by students after earnings reach a certain amount.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The education system.
Old value:: There is a free public education system alongside private schools.
Current: Education is private, but the government subsidises the cost of it for everyone
Proposed: Education is private, but the government issues vouchers to pay for the schooling of disadvantaged children.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 02:26:01, April 02, 2006 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the The Ghastly State of Education |
Message | Further: Teacher salaries have had to be reduced by the move to a full tuition subsidy. I currently have approximately 25k/yr allocated to tprimary school teacher salaries where at one point I had well over 36k. However, even if teachers worked for free, I would not be able to fund the budget properly. ~Miho Sonoda |
Date | 02:39:56, April 02, 2006 CET | From | Bachelor Party | To | Debating the The Ghastly State of Education |
Message | The DAM will get no argument from me, and we will vote for this bill. However, voting on this bill is extended into the next legislative session, with general elections approaching in April and the vote on this bill maturing in August. Therefore, we anticipate that this bill will be relegated to debate status and all votes for an against nullified. Let us pray the voters elect more fiscally responsibile representation for the impending session. |
Date | 13:34:41, April 02, 2006 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the The Ghastly State of Education |
Message | That's fine, I want more debate on this bill. If there's a way to maintain both public schooling system and a full subsidy for college tuition that actually covers it all, I'm all ears and all for it. However, I absolutely maintain that these two programs have done nothing but bring down toe quality of education in this nation, which is utterly unacceptable. The issue WILL NOT go away until this is rectified one way or another, and education is properly funded for the system in place. |
Date | 13:46:00, April 02, 2006 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the The Ghastly State of Education |
Message | To fully fund the system currently in place will take immediately 328 Billion in the education budget, with a projected increase of 2.5 billion per election cycle. Barring that, another solution is to institute quotas, allowing only 6 million grade schoolers primary education, and allow only 1 million to attend college nationwide, public and private institutions per year. However, since the current budget level was specifically designed to overfund the system outlined above, we strongly reccomend the reversion. It is simply easier. The fact that fiscally irresponsible parties in this nation have voted for a drastic reduction in educational standards is utterly revolting. Their idealism, if not reversed in a timely manner, will ruin a generation of this nation's youth. One fears it has already done a great deal of damage. It is sad that they no doubt intended the changes as a gift to the people, and it is blown up in their faces. |
Date | 21:59:39, April 03, 2006 CET | From | H.C.P.Z | To | Debating the The Ghastly State of Education |
Message | While I do not support this bill I am forced to vote in favor of it due to the extreme cost of the bill and the fact the only other way around it is to increase taxes by a very large margin. |
Date | 00:24:39, April 04, 2006 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the The Ghastly State of Education |
Message | I'm happy to see you've come to your senses, and have put the education of the populace above your own ideals. |
Date | 05:04:30, April 04, 2006 CET | From | Party for the Promotion of Pandas | To | Debating the The Ghastly State of Education |
Message | Why don't you change the budget around some? A fairly major argument you have voiced criticising socialism is that it won't work because they dont have trade in the game yet. Yet I look at our budget and the vast amounts of money we are still spending on our military. What was your argument for this? That it is a function of the government to protect its people? From what? War does not exist in this game yet either. You are controlling the budget, and what you do is good for the economy, but I have reached the conclusion that while what we want CAN be done (granted perhaps not quite to such effect) you REFUSE to do it simply because it goes against your ideals. |
Date | 05:34:18, April 04, 2006 CET | From | New Daio Party | To | Debating the The Ghastly State of Education |
Message | Because that's called playing to the game mechanics, which party-to-party is okay, but nationally is unrealistic. If you play specifically to game mechanics, this game is very shallow. Besides, making that very sugguestion means you're playing just as much to your ideals. It is not my ideal that everything be private, just that a citizen not need to work their ass off just to live, or have to carry an unreasonable tax burden, having no say as to how much they contribute or where it goes. My ideal is total economic freedom from government. However, unlike many, I know that government cannot exist if my ideal is realized, therefore I temper it to make it realistic. Which is more than can be said for many... |
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Voting
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yes |
Total Seats: 214 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 37 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 82 |
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