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Bill: Secularization Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Socialist Progress
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 4647
Description[?]:
| State and Religion have become a tangled mess in the past decade in Lodamun. This has to be drastically reversed, to grant religious freedom and General freedom from religious discrimnation to every citizen. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change State penalties for blasphemy
Old value:: Both private and public blasphemy are considered grave offenses, and are heavily prosecuted.
Current: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Proposed: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Current: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Proposed: Religious organizations are not permitted to actively promote themselves or advertise, however evangelism is permitted by individuals.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: People are required to dress according to religious codes
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: All schools are required to be religious in nature.
Current: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Proposed: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers are mandatory in schools.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:14:48, October 08, 2019 CET | From | Prince-Republican League - New EAPP | To | Debating the Secularization Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We'd like to once again draw attention to the fact that such a bill would be an attempt to amend the constitution (in this case the part that deals with the Hosiaism as Lodamun's state religion: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=608821) and as such would, again, require 2/3rds of the Chamber of People's deputies to support it. It would also make it easier for everyone involved if the attempts to amend the constitution are specifically brought up as such in the descriptions of bills. "As this bill amends the constitution, it will require 2/3 of the legislature to pass," is how, I think, it's usually worded. Gobrön hog Ümber-Lauda, EAPP Technical Secretary in Culinary Matters |
| Date | 15:05:12, October 08, 2019 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Progress | To | Debating the Secularization Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, As much as we like to follow Laws, this is clearly an attempt to Paralyse any Change Happening in Lodamun and to stop any try to get rif of this imposed encrusted Status-Quo. Frankly this is just undemocratical, and as already said we wont follow these dictatorial principles. Calvin Christians DSP Secretary for Internal Affairs |
| Date | 18:08:48, October 08, 2019 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Secularization Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, LR will support this bill, to make a statement. Sandra Neefs LR |
| Date | 22:44:42, October 09, 2019 CET | From | Lodamese Democratic Progressive Party | To | Debating the Secularization Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, While the EAPP Secretary is correct about changing constitutional laws needing 2/3rds support, we can always introduce a bill to flat-out abolish the law they referenced to get rid of the constitutional protection before attempting to reinstate true Freedom of Religion. Like treaty withdrawals, flat-out abolishing any specific law only needs a simple majority.(OOC: Section 6 Article 5e of the Game Rules) Cameron Mideen, GPP Leader |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 312 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 437 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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