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Bill: The Tukaralian Canal
Details
Submitted by[?]: Calvinist Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2067
Description[?]:
| Whereas we possess as good a chance as any other nation to benefit from this, And to profit maximally from the commerce this would bring on, Let a competent construction company be contracted to construct a canal through the southern areas of Dhataan and Lago Kwantu, from one side of our continent to the other. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:17:07, June 12, 2005 CET | From | Calvinist Conservative Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | Thoughts? |
| Date | 04:18:34, June 12, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | What was it I heard recently? oh yes..... "We must not spend with reckless abandon" -The Economics Minister and where exactly is the startup money going to come from? |
| Date | 04:34:34, June 12, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | I have to agree with the FP. We need to know this so we can make a proper judgement on wether or not to support this resolution |
| Date | 10:04:54, June 12, 2005 CET | From | Social Dynamist Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | This would be a chance to retrain and employ many of those recently unemployed in Gworuska and Shrin Kali. We reccommend that if public funds are used to build a canal, then the public should benefit from it. This means a toll for non-Tukaralian cargo to recouperate the initial outlay and provide for maintenance. We do not support subsidising a business, since we are concerned that a good deal of public money will end up in the private hands of company directors rather than being used directly on the canal, or even put into our education services. Secondly, we are worried about ownership of the canal: if privately owned, the company will have a private monopoly and will be able to charge (potentially extortionately) and profit (very unfairly) from a government project. Finally, we urge thorough environmental and economic surveys before embarking on such a project: we want to know that there will not be unforseen costs to our country. |
| Date | 20:04:27, June 12, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | This is 2065. Would canals really be up-to-date? |
| Date | 20:10:45, June 12, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | This is very promising. |
| Date | 04:08:02, June 13, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Free-Market Republican Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | I support this proposition. I suggest, though, that private enterprise be allowed a say, to increase efficiency and the cost-effectiveness of the construction. |
| Date | 16:13:43, June 13, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | I agree with the NCRP. |
| Date | 02:57:03, June 15, 2005 CET | From | Calvinist Conservative Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | I agree with the SDP and NCRP. How would you recommend the wording be changed? "and where exactly is the startup money going to come from?" Financed by a private company, giving them an ownership stake in return. |
| Date | 03:47:06, June 15, 2005 CET | From | Patriot Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | I smell another possible scandle here. :p |
| Date | 21:00:35, June 15, 2005 CET | From | Social Dynamist Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | A canal is almost by definition a monopoly by the owner of any stretch of it. Either it's a monopoly by a corporation, who can name their price and benefit unfairly, or we can have the government maintain it either to keep prices to maintenance cost level (plus recuperation of outlay) and provide a service to the country and the continent, or use any additional revenues generated to ease the taxation burden to fund our schools, hospitals, and other infrastructure projects. |
| Date | 12:36:49, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Social Dynamist Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | Motion is poorly defined and has not been open to amendment. We fear corporate abuse and monopolisation and will oppose the motion as it stands. |
| Date | 17:58:10, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Not really on either side Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | If the canal is built and financed by a private company, surely it will be theirs to do what they will with it? That would be like telling someone to go and buy a drink and drink it. The government will just be telling the private company what to do and not actually helping the project at all. The company will also decline the project as well. |
| Date | 18:22:15, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Free-Market Republican Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | As the NCRP is unclear as to the exact wording and exact meaning of the bill, the NCRP High Council has decided to vote against this bill. Ronald Reagan Chairman of the NCRP |
| Date | 15:07:42, June 17, 2005 CET | From | Social Dynamist Party | To | Debating the The Tukaralian Canal |
| Message | NSP, we are suggesting a canal financed and owned by the Tribes, run for the public good. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 59 | ||||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 222 | ||||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 18 |
| Random fact: Particracy does not allow role-play that seems to belong to the world of fantasy, science fiction and futuristic speculation. |
| Random quote: "Prejudices subsist in people's imagination long after they have been destroyed by their experience." - Ernest Dimnet |