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Bill: New Motto
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Calvinist Unionist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2068
Description[?]:
| We believe that the country needs a need motto. Our old one was made mostly by parties that don't even exist anymore! While we already have one in mind, we are open to suggestions. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The national motto.
Old value:: Iunctus pro pacis quod consensio.
Current: In hoc signo vinces (In this sign you will conquer)
Proposed: Ardente veritate Incendite tenebras mundi
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:27:35, June 12, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | This basically translates into "With fiery truth, Light the darkness of the world." It represents how we are a beacon to the world, and that it is our duty to defend truth and justice all throughout the globe. |
| Date | 05:38:10, June 12, 2005 CET | From | House of Thompson | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | I have to disagree. If you took the time to look up what the motto means, you will find out that it means "unified in peace and agreement." |
| Date | 19:48:46, June 12, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | I know what ours means. And I like this one better. Is it better to put something that says we we are peaceful and united, or is it better to say that we are united in our determination to make the world a better place with the growing truthfull flame of democracy? |
| Date | 22:51:46, June 12, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | the whole 'firey' thing is a bit too extreme. we'd rather show them the truth by setting them an example, not setting them on fire. |
| Date | 23:13:26, June 12, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | The flame doesn't mean set on fire, it means illuminate. It means the truth is so undeniably bright and hot that all lies shall be revealed. |
| Date | 03:38:45, June 13, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialists of Luthori | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | That's a line from Liberi Fatali (Children of Fate). It's from Final Fantasy VIII! |
| Date | 17:35:34, June 13, 2005 CET | From | Opinion Poll Vultures | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | eh....whatever |
| Date | 23:41:00, June 13, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | Am I the only person who EVER comes up with ideas around here? I swear, the National Democrats(the first legitimate big party, other than the infamous "rob" Party which had 100% of the seats for about 3 elections. |
| Date | 04:37:07, June 14, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | Continuing what I was saying earlier: "I swear, the National Democrats were the only other party that came up with anything. They came up with the flag und the motto. |
| Date | 06:09:30, June 14, 2005 CET | From | Opinion Poll Vultures | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | i say whatever because i dont know latin off hand...i assume the CSU or CPP will translate anything i dont know if i ask them too though :P |
| Date | 12:29:02, June 14, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | and in america, it was the fedaralists and the whigs who came up with the flag and the motto. should they be scrapped just because they don't exist any more? the flag and the motto have remained unchanged for a reason: they work. |
| Date | 14:04:01, June 14, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | I don't like our motto... Or the flag. Also, why is it in Lower-case letters? Hmmmm? That gives the impression that we are lazy! At least mine has it's first letter capitalized. Also, the whigs and federals basically became the republicans and democrats. So they are partially still around, if not in name. HOWEVER, most of these parties are not from when we voted on the flag and motto. Their voices should be heard. |
| Date | 18:36:47, June 14, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | I like the new one better. |
| Date | 21:42:24, June 14, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | i kinda like the current one better. |
| Date | 03:58:12, June 15, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | You have an idea, NFP? |
| Date | 04:16:33, June 15, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | no, i just said i liked the current one better. |
| Date | 17:44:57, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Cobdenistic Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | I like the new one more. The old one's a bit...hippy scumish peacenik-ish. The new one makes us sound powerful; a bit more ballsy |
| Date | 23:39:22, June 16, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | I'll bring it up next election. |
| Date | 02:56:32, June 18, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | Erm, what happened to all the parties that voted for it last time, before the Elections re-set it? |
| Date | 05:04:45, June 18, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the New Motto |
| Message | they don't seem to have re-voted yet |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 116 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 388 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 195 |
| Random fact: Culturally Open nations can adopt advisory/non-enforceable Nation Descriptions. See http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6242 |
| Random quote: "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard." - H. L. Mencken |