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Bill: Adoption
Details
Submitted by[?]: Free Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2214
Description[?]:
| Give all adopted children a father and a mother. It is more normal that way. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning who can proceed with adoption; in case adoption is legal.
Old value:: Everyone may adopt children.
Current: Everyone may adopt children.
Proposed: Only heterosexual couples may adopt children.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:22:00, April 11, 2006 CET | From |  Centrist Democratic Party | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | We suppport this. |
| Date | 04:04:47, April 11, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | Why? This is a homophobic bill proposed by a racist, Fascist, foolish party. The DLP will oppose this all the way. |
| Date | 04:44:19, April 11, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | The DLP apologises for earlier uncivil remarks, and did not mean to call the Conservative Party Fascist or racist. The bill remains a homophobic bill. |
| Date | 05:14:46, April 11, 2006 CET | From | Centrist Democratic Party | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | We aren't homophobes. We're just scared of them. OOC: Disregard that - I'm in a goofy mood tonight, sorry ;) |
| Date | 19:40:31, April 11, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | Gayness is not a race, so this is not rascist. I would not go so far as to call it homophobic, but I do want our children to have a father and a mother. Fascist: "any movement, ideology, or attitude that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and extreme nationalism." According to this, you are the more Fascist party here; trying to destroy private industry and the like. Definition courtesy of Encarta. |
| Date | 14:31:34, April 13, 2006 CET | From | Jelbék Zemojad Lofrkad Prta | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | The DLP understands that, and withdrew those remarks. The fact is, a gay couple is no more unable to raise children than a heterosexual couple. It has been that way in Jelbania for many years and there is no problem with it. We still think this is simply an anti-homosexual bill for no other reason than prejudice. OOC: Yeah sorry about that, I was a bit angry and posted before I thought :D |
| Date | 20:06:42, April 13, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | Yes, this is not the first time... So? Besides the rights of gays, what about the rights of the children? It is better to have 1 mother, and 1 father. Children need female AND male influence. |
| Date | 23:32:47, April 15, 2006 CET | From | Socialists Fury | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | This bill is completely innapropriate. I completely disagree with it and am in agreement with the DLP. I recently had to do a presentation regarding the GLBT population, which is the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transvestite population for those who are unaware and in this presentation my group studied adoptions and specifically who should be allowed to adopt. The fact of the matter is that any individual has the right to raise a child as long as they are capable of providing a quality of life. So answer me this, how does an individual who identifies as either a gay or lesbian or what not have any less qualification as an individual who does not identify as a homosexual? Since when does sexual preference give basis to who can and can't raise a child? This bill is not fair and it is ridiculous. Do you know how many children in America are without loving families and stuck in the rhealm of foster care and group homes, etc? And do you also realize how many homosexual couples, who can provide a loving home and quality of life for these children are out there willing to adopt children without homes? So answer me this, would you rather have these children stuck in the foster care system than in a home that can provide a quality life????? I am completely against this bill and anyone who is in favor, this is proposterous (perhaps I spelled it wrong but who cares) and I don't care how long it'll take on this foolish dial up for this message to be posted. This bill is absured and there is my two cents. Conservative Party- You write (which is completely politically incorrect) Gayness is not a race, so this is not rascist. Well gayness as you call it, is not a choice, it is configured at birth into a childs dna make up, so how can we have any more of a right to decide who can and can not adopt children? Perhaps I shall contrue a bill which will go like this. Only couples who make an income greater than 150,000 and have blue eyes and blonde hair can adopt children. Would this be so more different than the current propsed bill??? |
| Date | 01:22:22, April 16, 2006 CET | From | Free Conservative Party | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | More than one ridiculus statement there. "The fact of the matter is that any individual has the right to raise a child as long as they are capable of providing a quality of life." Can there be quality of life without a mother AND father??? Also, "Gayness as you call it, is not a choice, it is configured at birth into a childs dna make up..." PROVE IT! Also, if you went through biology, you would know that that is ridiculus. If there is a "gay gene," it would have died out. Do you know why? Gays cannot reproduce!!!!! If they are gay, they do not pass on their genes, therefore destroying whatever "gay gene" actually exists. Gayness IS NOT and CANNOT BE a race. That "gay gene" is an excuse for people like you to let them get married and adopt. |
| Date | 05:31:05, April 16, 2006 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | We thank the DLP and the Socialists Fury for their passionate dissenting words for this bill. The Citizens Party is completely against this blatantly discriminatory measure. We never have been nor never will be a party that supports discrimination in our national laws. Loving homes, quality of life, economic means, stable support network: these are what need to be focused on when considering adoption. Not someone's sexual orientation. Also on another note: we thank the DLP for having the guts to apologize for innapropiately throwing around the word "fascist." It is important for all of us to remain civil and to apologize when it is needed. |
| Date | 06:20:28, April 16, 2006 CET | From | BigBoss Party | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | Well the opposing arguements convinced me. I oppose. |
| Date | 06:24:11, April 16, 2006 CET | From | Socialists Fury | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | Can there be quality of life without a mother and father???? I think that in itself is a ridiculous question and the answer is quite simply- YES. Do you know what quality of life is??? Providing adequate food, shelter, education, etc. And I dont think that you have to be in a heterosexual relationship to provide these sorts of things, and I personally think your rebuttle just goes to show how ignorant you really are. Saying I had more than one ridiculous statement in my attempt to open peoples views is proof enough that someone is lacking in character. Not once have I attacked any debate message you post but I guess that is pointless. Who care if individuals who identify as homosexual adopt, marry, and raise a family. What business is it of ours? How is that going to effect us? Also, I did go through biology and I don't really remember them discussing anything at all that had to do with homosexuality, so I think your point there is a little moot. Homosexuality is caused by the brain, and at birth, the part of the brain which has become changed, is what causes individuals who identify as homosexuals. There is research out there which support this statement and I would do yourself a favor and educate yourself by reading up on it. How would you feel if America decided that they didn't want to let straight individuals raise a family, adopt, marry? This is foolish, debating with you is pointless because we'll never see eye to eye on this issue. However, I like to thank citizens party for voting against this bill ensuring that it will not make it to law. |
| Date | 06:28:24, April 16, 2006 CET | From | Socialists Fury | To | Debating the Adoption |
| Message | Just one more point, The description you gave for this bill is outrageous. "Give all adopted children a father and a mother. It is more normal that way." NORMAL???? If everything in this world was normal we would not be individuals, we would mold into robots, what was the majority, we wouldn't have any identity, because we would be as you say "normal" |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 218 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 277 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 6 |
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