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Bill: The Migrant Act of 4730
Details
Submitted by[?]: Beluzian Business Bureau
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 4730
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning granting nationality (national of this state without implication of having citizenship rights).
Old value:: Anyone receives nationality but immigrants must pass a test to gain nationality.
Current: Only those born to nationals become nationals.
Proposed: Anyone is able to claim nationality.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning immigration.
Old value:: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Current: There are quotas based on nationality to determine how many foreigners may reside permanently in this nation.
Proposed: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:01:18, March 23, 2020 CET | From | The Rural Conservative Association | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | This is a bill which would deride from the cultural homogeneity of our great nation. It is also impractical, and irresponsible, and so we shall not vote for it. |
| Date | 12:58:30, March 23, 2020 CET | From | Beluzia Renewal Party (BRP) | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | The BRP is not generally in favour of relaxing the law. It is not as if there is a total ban on anyone gaining Beluzian citizenship, so the existing laws allow for some safeguard without which anyone could take up residence here - maybe some with malicious intent. |
| Date | 18:53:06, March 23, 2020 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | I would just like to point out to the RCA that as a Beluzian political party, they should know that Beluzia is a country made up of multiple cultures, not a country made up of one homogeneous culture. I suggest they look through legislation history to find the cultural protocols of this nation. |
| Date | 19:07:10, March 23, 2020 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | Yes, we are all Beluz, but we are multiple ethnicities, so not homogenous. http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=478226 |
| Date | 09:25:55, March 24, 2020 CET | From | The Rural Conservative Association | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | Hense why I said Cultural Homogeneity...please read over my statement before deriding it/ |
| Date | 16:59:37, March 24, 2020 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | Cultural homogeneity means the reduction in cultural diversity through its transformation or absorption by a dominant culture. If we are allowing immigration, meaning more cultures, and more Beluzians, how exactly is that ridiculing, expressing contempt for cultural homogeneity? If Beluzia is a country made up of different ethnicities, how can there be one single dominant culture out there that wants to destroy our cultural diversity? Is the RCA suggesting that the Beluzian culture is under attack by immigrants, migrants who are trying to impose their 'dominant' culture on us? There's no one single culture in all of Terra that the world conforms to. In fact, everyone conforms to their own cultures and they don't seek to impose it on anyone. Again, the Beluzian culture is a mix of different cultures, it's not a single culture. If the RCA read the cultural protocols, they would have seen this: Beluzia has been a very diverse nation, ethnically speaking. This is due to Beluzia being a major destination for migrations, and those migrations (from Dovani, Artania and Majatra) are part of its ancient history. And I repeat again. Beluzia is a country of many cultures, to form one single culture, the Beluz culture, but it doesn't mean that the Beluz culture is a dominant one, because the Beluz culture is influenced by foreign individuals. In fact, the Beluz culture is not even a dominant culture, because Terra is full of countries who have their own individual culture. There is not one single country in Terra that has a culture where other countries have adopted, so I advise the RCA to learn a bit more about Terra and Beluzia before suggesting that Terra is a continent with cultures that other people seek to impose on us. Oh, and 'deride from the cultural homogeneity' means, using dictionary terms: Express contempt for; ridicule the reduction in cultural diversity through diffusion of cultural symbols. Again I repeat, how is accepting migrants and immigrants from different cultures, adding to the cultural diversity of the Beluz culture, a reduction in Beluz culture? If the Beluz culture is influenced by other foreign individuals, how is adding to the melting pot a reduction in cultural diversity? |
| Date | 17:03:12, March 24, 2020 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | OOC: Also, you need to rebut my argument or add some context to this sentence Hence why I said Cultural Homogeneity', because ngl, I can't make any sense out of it. If Beluz culture is made up of multiple different cultures, then how is allowing other cultures to add to the melting pot of cultures in Beluz culture a ridicule, contempt, mocking of the reduction of cultural diversity? There's no reduction in cultural diversity if you're adding to cultural diversity |
| Date | 17:04:36, March 24, 2020 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | OOC: And I'm not deriding your statement, I am rebutting, challenging it. You are fine to say whatever you want, I respect that, but challenging and rebutting it is not ridiculing, mocking or contempt for your words. It is a debate over your argument |
| Date | 23:10:32, March 24, 2020 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | We will vote against this bill because we realise Article 2 basically allows anyone to become a citizen of Beluzia without making them undergo some sort of background check. What would happen if we let in terrorists or organised crime members? As for article 1, we will also oppose because there is a risk that whatever people we allow to settle in Beluzia might be individuals with terrorism, paramilitary, organised crime backgrounds, and all of this pose threats to Beluzia's national security. I suggest that the BBB, when considering immigration and migration legislation, put the interests of the people of Beluzia first over those of the big businesses. We understand they intend to allow for more foreign migrants to invest and find jobs in Beluzia, and we are fully in support of that, but allowing whatever person to become a citizen of this country without a background check risks putting our national security in jeopardy. The BBB's intent is good, however we believe that they approached this in the wrong way. However, we are not opposed to the idea of immigration and migration Furthermore, I would like to mention to the RCA faction in Parliament that next time when talking about immigration and migration, allowing more people of other cultures is not contempt or ridiculing of the reduction of cultural diversity because of its transformation or absorption by a dominant culture. The argument makes no logical sense, and there is no one dominant culture in Beluzia |
| Date | 23:11:23, March 24, 2020 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | OOC: Correction. I meant to say 'The argument makes no logical sense, and there is no one dominant culture in Terra that seeks to 'invade' or 'erase' our culture' |
| Date | 23:38:04, March 24, 2020 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | OOC: And of course, I am not telling the RCA on how to argue for a particular position, because they are allowed to have their own opinions on political issues, and I respect that. Instead I ask them to make sure what they argue makes sense and is not vague. Because saying allowing more multiculturalism ridicules the reduction of cultural diversity through its transformation or absorption by a dominant culture is a logical fallacy |
| Date | 23:41:24, March 24, 2020 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | OOC: Because if someone of another culture is coming into this country and becomes a Beluzian citizen, but continues to practice their own culture or influences Beluz culture with their practices, how exactly does that diminish the Beluz culture? |
| Date | 23:44:49, March 24, 2020 CET | From | Unsubmissive Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the The Migrant Act of 4730 |
| Message | OOC: Anyways, I've been repeating myself, but I think you guys get the point I'm trying to make. You guys have every right to speak your opinion, but when something makes no sense, sounds stupid or ignorant (not saying the RCA is btw), I despise. Idk, maybe it's just me and I'm very picky about statements and arguments that are illogical or don't consider other perspectives and factors because I believe in facts rather than misinformation |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 472 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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